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All-electric utes on the radar for tradies
irose:
The Tesla Supercharger takes about an hour to fully charge a Tesla Model X. Wouldn't want to be in a queue!
VALKIE:
Im all for saving the planet.
But there are far greater problems on this planet that diesel fumes.
Our population is growing logarithmically, and with more people comes more deforestation, more food crops, more pollution and more environmental destruction.
The least advanced cultures are the worst offenders, breeding out of control and far beyond their capability to support the massive increase in numbers.
Sooner or later we will have to come to the point of no return.
Mass migration by way of invasion will happen, but this will not solve the problem, only exacerbate it.
There is so much wasted effort in trying to stop a symptom when they should be working out how to reduce the worlds population.
Not by genocide or other unsavory means, but by compulsory contraception.
if you cannot support your population, reduce the numbers and keep them low.
Instead, we waste our time thinking up bigger and better ways to make life hard for everyone.
battery powered cars are a gimmick, nothing more, nothing less.
They are not practical, efficient, safe or cheap.
We do not have the technology to make them efficient, practical, safe or cheap, so its a no brainer.
People want to simply get into their vehicle and drive.
they want no restrictions, like sitting around at some charging station for hours to top up before they drive.
We have huge distances to travel in Australia, I just cannot imagine driving from Melbourne to Perth in a toy car.
Then there is the batteries, seriously?
The make up of batteries is a rather nasty, toxic and flamable material.
They catch fire and its a case of "LET IT BURN" because they cannot put it out.
All the toxic fumes billow everywhere, great in a city I imagine.
And after a few years when the batteries can no longer hold a charge, they will have to be replaced.
You think replacing an engine is expensive, wait until you have to fork out for a battery in those things.
Then they have to dispose of the toxic things...wow.
finally there is the myth that they are environmentally friendly.
They have to be charged, where does that power come from? Power stations, nuclear or coal fired, because there is no viable alterative yet.
The batteries have to be manufactured, out of...... you guessed it, toxic materials.
Unless we have a massive technological brainwave and find some way to generate power better, make batteries more efficient and faster charging and can produce them at a reasonable cost.
We need to keep good old diesel.
I certanly will never be able to afford an electric car, nor do I want one.
ajm:
--- Quote from: VALKIE on May 28, 2020, 12:30:59 PM ---
battery powered cars are a gimmick, nothing more, nothing less.
They are not practical, efficient, safe or cheap.
--- End quote ---
What's the name of your horse Valkie
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yvesjv:
--- Quote from: ajm on May 28, 2020, 02:25:11 PM ---What's the name of your horse Valkie
--- End quote ---
Come on ajm... Valkie has a strong and valid opinion.
In an interesting post, he described part of a very complex problem.
IMHO, this battery solution is going to be a nightmare and that's because of the way our very capitalistic market works.
It has worked great for us that have steady employment in a stable environment and we couldn't care as long as we put food on the table, have a roof and can afford a big bash couple times per year.
But in these crazy times, it appears to have utterly failed the very many.
Yes, big business and their errand boys in the Govs are borrowing huge credit and trying to keep this global ecosystem system alive.
And I'll probably go along with it as I selfishly like myself and my close ones to retain the comforts this destructive system provides.
The battery systems that will under power the vehicles of the future will be I think part of our "consume and throw away" market.
It is too big a market of the future for big business not to disregard it and I think we are already looking at mining rare metals from the moon?!?
Ok rant over... it's Friday
ajm:
Yes, he does make some good points. But why let that get in the way of a good poke? I'm sure some of our fellow members will understand that.
My point, apart from being a bit of a payout, was one about the fact that he was repeating arguments used by the majority of horse owners when the automobile made its way into our history.
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