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Title: Fuel/klms
Post by: Wayne Ferris on Sep 24, 2017, 09:34:43 AM
My 2017 model sx is about to get its second tank of fuel,i was wondering how many klms should i expect with normal driving(whatever that is)
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: Freddie on Sep 24, 2017, 10:07:05 AM
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Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: Wayne Ferris on Sep 24, 2017, 11:49:16 AM
I just filled up    805klms with six litres in the tank,i think thats pretty good
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: mydmax2 on Sep 24, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
If the tank is stated as 76 litres you don't know where that level ever was measured from. At beginning of neck? which you can't see, topped to the brim? somewhere in between? You don't really know how much fuel is left.

We hope you are normal and drive like normal people, if flat country then normal for that? hilly terrain? normal for that?

It sems you are driving very carefully, no load and long runs.
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: King Ragnar on Sep 24, 2017, 11:15:15 PM
In my home country Isuzu Norway did at test last weekend starting from Oslo to see how far they could get on one tank(76L) They ended up quite far up north in the country and the odo stopped at 1602,5 km  :icon_thumleft:

That is pretty good because our roads are quite curvy and mountainous. The car they used was a regular Spacecab 1,9 Blue Power, manual gear. In Europe this engine is tuned at 164 Hp and 360 Nm

https://www.facebook.com/IsuzuNorge/posts/1680109905332952

This is the route they drove, km are not correct so disregard that.
https://www.google.no/maps/dir/Gjeller%C3%A5sen/Lyngen/@65.3810326,10.6414918,5.08z/data=!4m19!4m18!1m10!1m1!1s0x46417a88ffb81d55:0x85136371ca33949a!2m2!1d10.930558!2d59.9875343!3m4!1m2!1d12.8041444!2d64.7243186!3s0x4673b0af96f073fd:0xc8b39563319be336!1m5!1m1!1s0x45c538db16e0c889:0xc0d411aee4e72744!2m2!1d20.3614!2d69.7102832!3e0?
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: FastFless on Sep 25, 2017, 12:20:47 AM

My 2017 model sx is about to get its second tank of fuel,i was wondering how many klms should i expect with normal driving(whatever that is)

Wayne,

My 2017 model is also only on its second tank of fuel. By the dash gauge it's getting 11.9 kilometres to the litre (8.4 Litres per 100km) - about 40% city and 60% highway driving.

That seems pretty good and compares slightly more favourably to my similar spec 2010 D-Max.

One thing I have noticed is that when the fuel light came on in my 2010 model, I still had between 20 and 25 litres in the tank (pretty stupid really).

Lucky I didn't assume the same for my new model - filled up soon after the light came on and found that I only had 6 litres left!(both vehicles have a 76 litre tank).

Any issues with the new car? Only one I have is that the steering wheel is not centred when driving on a straight road - the 'T' is slightly tilted clockwise by about 10mm. Hopefully Isuzu will fix it at the 3,000 check.

FastFless
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: Wayne Ferris on Sep 25, 2017, 06:48:19 AM
No issues yet except the driver has trouble changing gear some times.
My fuel said 11. some thing klms to the litre
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: mydmax2 on Sep 25, 2017, 02:36:28 PM
FastFless.
Sorry not about fuel economy, but the steering wheel off centre is a direct result of the last person who altered your wheel alignment and got the adjusted lengths of the tie rods up the creek.
For some reason people doing wheel alignment seem to have trouble getting it right, even harder for them when the rack is in front, because their brains cannot work in a mirrored sense.
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: Luigi on Sep 25, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
My Spacey has just done 3k and the economy has steadily improved (down to 9.4l/100). It gets a bit better after I take it for a highway run for a minimum half hour and driving like I stole it, but keeping revs below 3000.
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: FastFless on Sep 26, 2017, 09:42:45 PM
FastFless.
Sorry not about fuel economy, but the steering wheel off centre is a direct result of the last person who altered your wheel alignment and got the adjusted lengths of the tie rods up the creek.
For some reason people doing wheel alignment seem to have trouble getting it right, even harder for them when the rack is in front, because their brains cannot work in a mirrored sense.

Yep - probably.

The last person to adjust the lengths of the tie rods would have been in Thailand!

The vehicle was like that straight from the showroom (has now only done 1,200km). Hopefully they will fix it at the first service.

Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: mydmax2 on Sep 26, 2017, 10:32:02 PM
FastFless
That is what pre delivery is for, but they do nothing for the money you pay. 
It is brand new, "how could it be wrong".
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: fishfinder on Nov 06, 2017, 08:48:12 AM
Did a 700 km run yesterday through a slow winiding mountain range and flat country and averaged 8.1 / 100km happy with that witn now just under 2000km on clock
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: 257Bob on Nov 06, 2017, 08:35:54 PM
I have just clocked up 41 000km on my cab chassis Dmax.  It is unladen 99.9% of the time with no sides.  Fuel usage has hovered around 10L/100km but last week after a lot of highway driving it recorded 9.2L/100km.  That's the best I have ever recorded so maybe the motor is easing up.  I run BFG KM2 tyres which are quite heavy.  A bloke told me that his mileage dropped by a litre/100km after fitting KM2 tyres due to their weight.  I've never come close to figures like 8.2L/100km that others are recording. 
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: DannyG on Nov 06, 2017, 08:47:40 PM
I have just clocked up 41 000km on my cab chassis Dmax.  It is unladen 99.9% of the time with no sides.  Fuel usage has hovered around 10L/100km but last week after a lot of highway driving it recorded 9.2L/100km.  That's the best I have ever recorded so maybe the motor is easing up.  I run BFG KM2 tyres which are quite heavy.  A bloke told me that his mileage dropped by a litre/100km after fitting KM2 tyres due to their weight.  I've never come close to figures like 8.2L/100km that others are recording.

Bob, the KM2's will reduce your economy considerably due to rolling resistance.

I use K02's on the MUX and it dropped a good 1ltr per hundred with those. I used KM2's on my Patrol and it dropped a little more.

It has more to do with the size and aggressiveness of the tread more so than the brand of tyre. BFG make a great tyre.
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: 257Bob on Nov 06, 2017, 09:17:44 PM
I have just clocked up 41 000km on my cab chassis Dmax.  It is unladen 99.9% of the time with no sides.  Fuel usage has hovered around 10L/100km but last week after a lot of highway driving it recorded 9.2L/100km.  That's the best I have ever recorded so maybe the motor is easing up.  I run BFG KM2 tyres which are quite heavy.  A bloke told me that his mileage dropped by a litre/100km after fitting KM2 tyres due to their weight.  I've never come close to figures like 8.2L/100km that others are recording.

Bob, the KM2's will reduce your economy considerably due to rolling resistance.

I use K02's on the MUX and it dropped a good 1ltr per hundred with those. I used KM2's on my Patrol and it dropped a little more.

It has more to do with the size and aggressiveness of the tread more so than the brand of tyre. BFG make a great tyre.

The extra litre per 100km is well worth it considering the performance of the KM2s.  They are without a doubt the best tyre I have ever run.  I absolutely cannot rate them highly enough.  Pricey, but then good things usually are. 
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: glenm64 on Nov 06, 2017, 09:27:24 PM
From factory I was getting 8.5 city. Once 265/75/16 and bull bar went it went to 10.5.
Remapped ECU now gives 7.5 city.

Cheers Glen

Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: mydmax2 on Nov 06, 2017, 10:22:58 PM
257Bob
It isn't the weight of the tyre which increases the fuel comsumption, it is the rolling resistance and the width which affects it.
If the additional tyre weight over what the OE tyres are, then an additonal person in your vehicle would use around 2 extra litres to carry them. With another person you would begin to need a long range tank not to mention towing or carrying a load.
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: 257Bob on Nov 09, 2017, 07:27:40 AM
Doesn't weight increase rolling resistance?
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: mydmax2 on Nov 09, 2017, 08:47:37 AM
257Bob

Yes it does, but the weight difference between OE tyres and KM2 tyres is pretty insignificant when compared to adding one persons effect on economy. One extra person you may not notice any difference at all, but saying the tyre weight difference which is far less than an additional person changes it quite a bit. Therefore the tyre weight difference isn't a measurable thing. The width, dia, lug pattern and it's rolling resistance do have an effect on economy.

If nothing but the width of the tyre is the change then the vehicle will use more fuel purely because of the width.
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: matto9018 on Nov 11, 2017, 07:20:16 AM
Since new, I've averaged 9-10L per 100s, I've read that DPF has slightly more than non DPF, but it still on 1400kms, would be good if it improves when it gets loosen up....

Cheers
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: voids on Nov 11, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
From factory I was getting 8.5 city. Once 265/75/16 and bull bar went it went to 10.5.
Remapped ECU now gives 7.5 city.

Cheers Glen

Wonder what was actually changed in the ECU via the re map to start achieving such good fuel ecconomy. 
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: Wayne Ferris on Nov 11, 2017, 12:26:21 PM
Since new, I've averaged 9-10L per 100s, I've read that DPF has slightly more than non DPF, but it still on 1400kms, would be good if it improves when it gets loosen up....

Cheers
You get 1400klms out of a tank
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: mydmax2 on Nov 11, 2017, 01:49:53 PM
Wayne
He didn't say that at all! He is only on his third ever fill of fuel!!!!!
Title: Re: Fuel/klms
Post by: Wayne Ferris on Nov 12, 2017, 12:44:47 PM
Wayne
He didn't say that at all! He is only on his third ever fill of fuel!!!!!

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