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General Boards => Off Topic => Topic started by: Boutime on Aug 12, 2015, 09:16:55 AM
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Thank you Dave, these are very valid points you raised. With only a hand full of recoveries I am very much a novice and unfortunately I have missed out on the I Venture trips so far :crybaby2:. But there is always next time. :notworthy:. This was my first recovery with the MUX and I was surprised how easy it was in the end.
You are right, in every recovery (even the most straightforward) safety is the most important. My bad.
As a thought we should start a board on recovery tips, I think it will be most helpful to most to learn from practical situations.
I would like to learn more about the angle you are referring to. It looks like my entire approach to the recovery may have been incorrect. In the picture I have attached, I tried to reduce the angle labeled "x" to reduce the risk of rollover. I therefore moved over to the right of the path as much as practical and thought the driver side recovery point assisted with reducing the angle. It is very important for me to understand these things as I am planning more serious trips in the future and would like to get it right.
Thanks for the great works guys.
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Great idea for a thread!
Question for you Boutime: where did you have the strap connected too, the OEM "tow/recovery" points on the vehicle or did you have ARB recovery points?
With straps, they are designed to stretch so keeping them flat and not twisted ensures maximun stretch and minimum damage to the strap.
Good info, that's what they taught us at the IVenture club too, along with using a damper on the strap, and the strap should be connected to the passenger side. They also said two straps were preferable (connect in serial, i.e. one long strap).
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Yes two straps will stretch further providing more kinetic (?) energy to assist the recovery.
Dave
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Thank you Dave, fantastic input. Much appreciated.
Will have to do a bit more practicing. I know a few Jeep owners, will invite them along on the next trip :laughing7:
Hey Battlemantis, still running with the factory points. Will have to invest in an upgrade and strap to spread the load.
It is also very easy in the heat of the moment to forget that the 4B chassis can be damaged especially with recovery at an angle. Also thanks for reminding me about forward rather than reverse. Good stuff, thanks guys.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E6mJa9io04
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I think it was a good recovery as it was more a tow out, than a snatch out - although the dampener should always be on regardless.
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I think it was a good recovery as it was more a tow out, than a snatch out - although the dampener should always be on regardless.
Agree although in any recovery I would remove any passengers from the car and have them positioned outside the danger zone where they could be impacted by a strap or hardware
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Good point. Plus removing passengers reduces the weight of the vehicle ;)
Dave
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I think it was a good recovery as it was more a tow out, than a snatch out - although the dampener should always be on regardless.
Agree although in any recovery I would remove any passengers from the car and have them positioned outside the danger zone where they could be impacted by a strap or hardware
True 👍
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Great feedback, and here I was thinking you kick the passengers out so they can video the recovery and laugh at the Jeep :laughing7:
Come on Guys and Gals, there has to be more recovery videos/stories out there. Please share :icon_thumleft:
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I have a copy of a Recovery Tips annd Techniques mag which while fairly basic has some good info
I will post up some bits from it when at home on the desktop
I have seen two recoveries on 4WD shows recently where they were pulling using the strap hooked over a towball. Poor presentation from people who should be promoting safety
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I'm sure we'd all have heaps of recovery videos…. if we didn't drive DMaxs and MU-Xs!!!
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Knoath, you're right it is difficult, even if you deliberately try to get them bogged. :icon_salut: But there are always the other (uninformed) bunch who we can :bootyshake:
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Worth a listen, and some links for further reading
http://4x4earth.com/podcasts/track-2-snatch-strap-recoveries/
Dave
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As promised albeit a bit late here are some pages from the mag. I have shown the cover page so you can go and buy your own. I think I will carry this in the glove box for future reference should the need arise.
I like the "idle snatch rule" article as I think there is a lot of merit in that technique
3rd showing the recovery points - see pic #5 - factory tie down bracket looks very similiar to ours and note comment about weld fractures. There is a pic of a broken one on another forum but circumstances of how it occurred are not stated. Interesting that I Venture club are not demonstrating snatch recovery using that bracket until some legal matter is sorted
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As promised ...
I like the "idle snatch rule" article as I think there is a lot of merit in that technique
Now I love that tip! Will certainly apply it next time around.