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Title: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jun 25, 2021, 04:32:16 PM
Hi all,

Is it?
My Finance Minister is off to Melbourne during the school holidays next week.
If Vic goes into lock-down while she's there, it's going to be hard not going fishing when she's back after a whole week and then in quarantine for another two weeks!  :crybaby2:
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jun 25, 2021, 04:51:38 PM
Mate, if its as contagious as they say, then it wouldn't surprise me if we're getting locked down again. Vic won't wait as long as Sydney did... they will do a 3 or 5 day lockdown the moment we get more cases linked to this twit who brought it down here from Sydney.

We're supposed to be in Qld next weekend for a wedding, and I thought we weren't getting their with the last lockdown, and more Qld border restrictions, but having lifted today, we're just hoping nothing bad happens in the next 5 days so we can escape for a wedding ourselves.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Jun 25, 2021, 07:48:28 PM
Isn't it part of that moronic couples escapade from Melbourne, who decided to head to Queensland via every semi-urban town on the way?!  ;D
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jun 26, 2021, 06:43:35 PM
The pair should have been put in jail for a month, just to teach a lesson and deterrent for all future morons. They have a $8k odd fine, but that's getting off easy IMO.

The issue isn't covid. This issue is morons. The moment we get an outbreak somewhere, morons leave town to escape a lockdown, which is in the interest of everyone. But nooooo... morons think they're special, jump ship and spread it across states.

Sharing isn't caring when its Covid, just farts and other stupid crap.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Stubbyhold3r on Jun 27, 2021, 08:52:22 AM
The issue isn't covid. This issue is morons. The moment we get an outbreak somewhere, morons leave town to escape a lockdown, which is in the interest of everyone. But nooooo... morons think they're special, jump ship and spread it across states.

Sharing isn't caring when its Covid, just farts and other stupid crap.

Not just Joe Citizen, but 'the power's that be' as well, eg:

Son is (at this point) suppose to be flying to Tassie tomorrow. I'm driving him to shitney airport from the far sth coast NSW and dropping him off.
I'm not allowed to stop at any shops or venues etc, but can stop at a servo - not that I will lol. People in hotspot and surrounds are also allowed to stop at them same servos.
His early morning flight was cancelled "due to covid", but he can catch another flight later in the day....nar, I can't see the rationale either!
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jun 27, 2021, 01:51:03 PM
And Darwin, Palmerston and Litchfield is now in a 48Hr lockdown as of 1pm today.

Was in wollies which was quiet for a Sunday morning and suddenly it just turned into an absolute circus, people, cars, etc coming in from all doors, yes from everywhere.
The queue to get into the shop was that long it started from the carpark.
By the time we tried to drive out of the carpark, it was pure mayhem in/out and around the shopping center.

The better half is furious as she was meant to fly out this Tuesday.
I'm just cut about it.
I went out and bought a nice lure this morning...  :BangHead:

Just heard Perth too?
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Bob on Jun 27, 2021, 02:02:23 PM
Hope you stocked up on dunny rolls :dontknow:

I think anyone wanting to travel interstate needs to be prepared to be stuffed around at the drop of a hat.

We were due to fly out to USA on 17/03/2020 for 8 weeks and it was Black Friday 13/03/2020 when all the $hit hit the fan.

Hopefully we can take off next year in the van for a few months once everyone is vaccinated.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Bookleaf on Jun 27, 2021, 02:18:17 PM
"it's the morons"
How about the Mine works now in Darwin workers were tod to isolate and now they are "uncontactable".
Or the 14 workers who also have vanished - "uncontactable" (though they may just have gone off-line just as there was the first notification of the virus up there).

Some people are selfishly just looking after #1
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jun 27, 2021, 02:19:56 PM
Hopefully we can take off next year in the van for a few months once everyone is vaccinated.

I like your humour  :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:
Scotty from Marketing is probably off to Hawai again and sayin stuff like "I don't hold the needle mate"
Been trying to book in for awhile now and it is always this below
(https://i.ibb.co/54g06vm/image.png) (https://ibb.co/54g06vm)

Apparently we've run out of vaccines.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jun 27, 2021, 05:05:40 PM
I get my second Pfizer on Tuesday... looking forward to the end of that process. Wasn't that bad, but took nearly 200 call attempts to get the first one booked in. They had it a bit more sorted when I called for the second, but couldn't get in at that same place because they hadn't released bookings, so had to travel a bit further... but overall, not a tragic process. Was very fast when at the mass vaccine hub.
"it's the morons"
How about the Mine works now in Darwin workers were tod to isolate and now they are "uncontactable".
Typical Darwin. In the pubs drinking on the main street. About the only thing there is to do in Darwin... I guess you can take the same process to the beach, fish and drink... not much beyond that to do last I was there for any months. We spent a lot of time in a pub on main street drinking, soaking up the cool sprayer.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Jun 27, 2021, 07:28:10 PM
Hopefully we can take off next year in the van for a few months once everyone is vaccinated.

Dreaming with this failed rollout. Too many people are spooked by all these side effects that are slowly coming to the fore from the guinea pigs that went first.
I'd be surprised to see australia at a 50% vaccination rate by the end of the year. They should of not lumped all their eggs in the one AZ basket and gave people options. People being railroaded tend to push back, which is what we're seeing with so many people saying no to the Astra Zeneca jab.

On the topic of travelling though, hopefully these NSW shenanigans go away soon so we can all get back to business as usual and can travel to see loved ones again.

Simon
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jun 28, 2021, 05:04:14 AM
They should of not lumped all their eggs in the one AZ basket and gave people options. People being railroaded tend to push back, which is what we're seeing with so many people saying no to the Astra Zeneca jab.
And back in 2020, it was spilled why Scotty from marketing did so
https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/08/20/from-lib-staffer-to-big-pharma-an-unsurprising-journey-of-lobbying-at-work/

At the beginning of the year  we were having a Teams meeting including one member stuck in South Africa and he then mentioned they stopped the rollout because it was useless against the variants.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-55999678

Guess I'll have to wait for the pfizer or better but with lobbyists running the show, I'm not holding my breath.

On the topic of travelling though, hopefully these NSW shenanigans go away soon so we can all get back to business as usual and can travel to see loved ones again.
Been stuck for awhile now and can't wait for a semblance of normality nationwide  so we can travel again... WA/Ningaloo is calling!
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 15, 2021, 06:19:16 PM
Yah... lockdown again. Good times. Not.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Bob on Jul 15, 2021, 06:58:16 PM
Anyone doing interstate travel must be getting very worried.

We are hoping next year might be better that's if everyone gets the jab but then again the are reports of some having it and still getting infected :dontknow:
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 15, 2021, 07:07:47 PM
Yer... vacinnation would be nice for the whole country. I'm fully done, 2 x Pfizer.

Everytime we have even a small trip booked, this crap happens. It seems we're the unluckiest people to book away time. We just keep changing them forward, and each time so far, we keep ending up in lockdown. We're not even booking for long, just weekends away, and we can't achieve that. With the next availability for a place where we want to go, BAM, lockdown happens again or borders close. Either one...

We ended up booking a crappy little place once this year, over-priced for what it was, at short notice just to ensure we could actually get away for a weekend in the mountains. We have two cavoodles, so our bookings are limited due to the fluffy puppies coming with.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: waratah on Jul 15, 2021, 09:20:09 PM
I hope its sorted this time next year, hoping to do the lap in the new MUX!
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Jul 16, 2021, 07:12:15 AM
Everytime we have even a small trip booked, this crap happens. It seems we're the unluckiest people to book away time.

It seems to be the same for the wife and myself every time we book a drive to Adelaide. Three weeks out theres an outbreak and SA borders slam shut. On this occasion they slammed shut after we were told not to leave the region though  :dontknow:

I can now see how much it would of sucked for those people living in Melbourne for all those months of lockdown, this not being able to do anything outside your house sucks a big one. My only saving grace is being able to still work, which is hardly a boon in some cases  :evil6:

Simon
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 16, 2021, 10:22:50 AM
I can now see how much it would of sucked for those people living in Melbourne for all those months of lockdown, this not being able to do anything outside your house sucks a big one.
Yer, that wasn't the best. It started out ok, then it got very monotonous quick.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Jul 16, 2021, 10:33:38 AM
Last three trips in a row; gear all packed, ute serviced, fuelled, tyres checked, water tanks filled, fridge turned on and stocked, etc, ready to leave next morning.... and overnight borders slammed shut or yet another bloody lockdown announced each time. All this and there isn't, and has never been a covid case within 200 kms of us...
Being old farts, we fear we will die of old age before we can travel freely again (dementia BEFORE adventure??)
As the number plates (almost) say "Victoria-the place NOT to be" during 2020/21...
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Jul 16, 2021, 11:16:07 AM
I’d be really interested to see the total economic cost for the last 19 months. Doubt they’d be game enough to release figures on what kind of toll the lack of domestic travelers has added up to, especially the the little towns that only have a historic pub and little else going for them.
ASIC should release figures on how many ABNs have been closed over the last 12 months.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: sdouglas on Jul 16, 2021, 11:39:17 AM
And also the crop farmers all over the country who rely on transient workers picking their produce.
So then we end up with false food shortages in some areas and good quality fruit and veg rotting on the ground.
And as mentioned above, less money going over the counters of the small shops and pubs in the area.
Having to wear a mask because someone allegedly caught the Rona 400 kms away doesn’t make sense either.
Rant over.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 16, 2021, 01:30:30 PM
Last three trips in a row; gear all packed, ute serviced, fuelled, tyres checked, water tanks filled, fridge turned on and stocked, etc, ready to leave next morning.... and overnight borders slammed shut or yet another bloody lockdown announced each time. All this and there isn't, and has never been a covid case within 200 kms of us...
Being old farts, we fear we will die of old age before we can travel freely again (dementia BEFORE adventure??)
As the number plates (almost) say "Victoria-the place NOT to be" during 2020/21...
Oh I nearly feel like kin. I'm trying not to giveup with the timing screwing us each time... but its getting to struggle street. We nearly want to give up and just wait for this magic vax number to be reached. Yep... dementia could be first. Wait! What was I saying?
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jul 16, 2021, 04:47:31 PM
I have a feeling that until the majority of the population have been vaccinated, there could be a Lockdown just before any major holiday break.

Just checked the Darwin booking site and behold they are finally open as of today.
Booked mine in for the first day at the earliest hour they open.

On the plus side: I hear that after the vaccination, mobile including 5G reception is much better when holding the phone to the ears.
AND you also get a direct line to Bill Gates... Win!
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Jul 16, 2021, 07:44:34 PM

Just after my earlier post having a sook about covid-aborted trips, the Leader of the Opposition and I were crying into our cups of morning tea, but consoled ourselves with the possibility (if the 5 day lockdown only goes for 5 days - ha ha ha....) of getting to the Echuca Blues Festival (we had tickets n accommodation booked).
See how hopeful, positive and still sorta optimistic we are?

Then I read my emails....
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 17, 2021, 10:33:26 AM
On the plus side: I hear that after the vaccination, mobile including 5G reception is much better when holding the phone to the ears.
AND you also get a direct line to Bill Gates... Win!
Sweet. Fully vaccinated here, but I don't have a 5G phone to test it out. Will have to try. I wonder if my ears become mini antennas!
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jul 18, 2021, 10:34:36 AM
Jokes aside guys stuck in Vic, go and do your shopping now.
An excerpt from the TheAge online: "Victoria records 16 new cases, as exposure list tops 200
Victoria’s lockdown threatens to extend beyond five days"

Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Jul 18, 2021, 08:56:25 PM
No threat, its pretty much a given.

Seems like knee-jerk reactions are the call of the year. Hopefully all the borders will all be open for christmas at this rate.

Simon
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jul 20, 2021, 07:34:18 AM
On the news this morning:
Feel sorry for you lot stuck in NSW, appears Gladys and Co keeps stuffing it up with more and more cases just piling up.
Meanwhile Dan in Vic appears to be on the ball and calling lockdown to stop the spread so as to keep the state safe.

Nothing on Qld.
WA appears to be safe and partying.
Tasmania, does it exist... cannot find it on a map.
NT, after the snap lockdown a few days ago,we are going into a long weekend now... win!

Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 20, 2021, 10:09:07 AM
Dan learnt his lesson last year, to follow WA and QLD with a harder approach. NSW is trying to be a trend setter, and unfortunately she is doing it with the worse strain to date and finding out the hard way that Dan is the man due to his epic stuffup last year. Atleast he isn't making the same mistake twice and being laxadaisy with it nowadays.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: guyfromaus on Jul 20, 2021, 03:28:26 PM
SOUTH AUSTRALIA  starts lockdown   6 pm 20 july
Buggar -ah no thats Toyota!!!
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jul 23, 2021, 04:29:51 PM
Just saw the news: Gladys is calling it a "National Emergency"  :dontknow:

Don't think that will be forgotten soon:
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrBlackVelvet/status/1413624954537476096

Maybe we should give NSW our Gunner and his crew to stop the Delta strain.
Feel sorry for you lot stuck in NSW  :icon_salut:
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jul 24, 2021, 08:23:43 AM
Guys, no joke: get everyone you know including you and your close ones vaccinated asap!
The yanks are fighting an uphill battle:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/22/delta-variant-is-one-of-the-most-infectious-respiratory-diseases-known-cdc-director-says-.html

I cannot wait for my first jab... and I hate needles.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 24, 2021, 09:06:38 AM
I think the NSW premier needs to start taking this more seriously than she is. Ring of steel that entire area, lock everyone down, not just certain areas.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: xcvator on Jul 24, 2021, 10:50:45 AM
Guys, no joke: get everyone you know including you and your close ones vaccinated asap!
The yanks are fighting an uphill battle:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/22/delta-variant-is-one-of-the-most-infectious-respiratory-diseases-known-cdc-director-says-.html

I cannot wait for my first jab... and I hate needles.

I've had my 2 Astra shots, didn't even know the nurse had done it
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Jul 24, 2021, 03:02:33 PM
I think the NSW premier needs to start taking this more seriously than she is. Ring of steel that entire area, lock everyone down, not just certain areas.

They have, the whole Greater Sydney area is pretty much locked down. They've shut down most everything except food/grocery shops and the post office.

Simon
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 24, 2021, 04:08:00 PM
No, they're garbage rules that allow each person to decide for themselves.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney#greater-sydney-restrictions

You don't even need to wear facemasks outside. You get to decide when to wear them if you feel social distancing is not met. WTF.

Up until a week ago, louis vuitton was still an essential service and open to the public. She hasn't taken it seriously from the get go, and still isn't, because she still doesn't have adequate commonsense restrictions in place to stop it.

Every other state goes harder and stops it. She refuses to implement the tougher restrictions others are using.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Jul 25, 2021, 01:38:00 AM
Just need to learn to live with it. Covid isn't something new and it isn't going away.

Simon

*I went on a rant before posting and decided to shorten it.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jul 25, 2021, 04:34:05 AM
Just need to learn to live with it. Covid isn't something new and it isn't going away.
Let's get as many as possible vaccinated.
The blatant/ongoing incompetence of Scomo, Gladys and Co will seriously hurt anyone not getting the jabs.

Interestingly Germans are recommending to mix the jabs.
Last I spoke about it with my GP, appears the discussion has already started here in Aus for similar... but don't hold your breath for any progress with the current lot in charge of the commonwealth
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/02/health/germany-covid-vaccines-mixing-intl/index.html

Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: JS on Jul 25, 2021, 09:14:06 AM
Trouble is, when we vote, we still end up with a politician ......... and very few of them are competent at anything other than being a politician.
And the premiers are only concerned with their state ..... and to hell with the rest of Australia.
It's all quite depressing.

Got my first AZ jab on Friday. Still kicking on Sunday, so hope all is well !!!

Cheers
Jim

Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: tom60 on Jul 25, 2021, 11:11:26 AM
I think all states (apart from NSW) learned from Victoria's slow response and long lockdown last year.  Go early and hard before it spreads.  The Federal government made two major mistakes.  1.  Relying solely on AZ and the Uni of Qld.  Deciding to take the responsibility for the vaccination rollout away from the states, when the states had a well tested and used process whilst the Feds had none!

Meanwhile, yesterday in Sydney a mass freedom march occurred with unmasked people in close proximity.  It will only take one of them to be infectious (highly likely) and it will have been a 'super spreader' event.  The turkeys have voted for christmas.

There will continue to be lockdowns until at least 80% of the population is vaccinated and Aust achieves 'herd immunity'.

Due for my 2nd AZ shot on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Ian G on Jul 25, 2021, 11:22:33 AM
I get my second AZ jab in a couple of weeks, no problems with the first.
Notice the Gov has secured another 85 million Pfizer shots for delivery next year, offering a third booster shot to everyone regardless of which jabs you have had previously.
Will be interesting to see how the cases occur from the rally in NSW yesterday !!!
Ian
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 25, 2021, 12:23:13 PM
Trouble is, when we vote, we still end up with a politician
Amen Jim.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 25, 2021, 12:31:02 PM
Yer, I think this Delta variant is just a whole new level. All the other states (except NSW) are taking this variant far more serious than the last, which we learnt from experience, was not as transmissable as originally thought, and just imposing masks at all times seemed to curb it for the most part from stranger to stranger transmission. This Delta one but... like damn, its jumping from random to random with the blow of the wind it seems.

NSW not having to wear masks outdoors is just nuts. If you told me I didn't have to wear a mask when outside, I wouldn't be. And I don't. I enjoy walking my dogs each day without a mask. I wear one now and put up with it because I walk past lots of people and Delta is out of the box. When they say I don't have to, I won't, but I'll still be walking past all these random strangers. At no point do I stop when approaching a random stranger, put on my mask because I can't social distance for a few seconds, then remove it after the fact. This was fine for the normal variant, but does not seem so for Delta.

NSW is crazy nuts and IMHO I think they're going to keep getting worse results until they take this far more seriously and lock down hard. If it does go down based on current restrictions, I think a lot of luck was present, but still think people are going to be locked down longer than they need to be as a result of the more laxed restrictions Sydney are within compared to how every other state handles Delta outbreaks.

As one living in Melbourne and having to endure all the lockdowns we have, I honestly feel for those in Sydney enduring this. I really hope it doesn't get worse for them and extend their lockdown time, as we were pretty stir crazy after 4 months lockdown.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Jul 31, 2021, 05:22:21 AM
I think this Delta variant is just a whole new level. All the other states (except NSW) are taking this variant far more serious than the last, which we learnt from experience, was not as transmissable as originally thought, and just imposing masks at all times seemed to curb it for the most part from stranger to stranger transmission. This Delta one but... like damn, its jumping from random to random with the blow of the wind it seems.

The yanks have reported that is spreads as easily as chickenpox,,,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/29/cdc-mask-guidance/
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Jul 31, 2021, 07:03:35 AM
I despise how Americans call everything a war. Argh! But damn... this is a nasty variant and the more data they release seems to just show how bad it is.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 16, 2021, 05:24:52 PM
Damn... back to curfew for us. Don't ask Gladys though, according to her, NSW has the toughest lockdown settings in Australia and the world. We have 20 cases a day and getting curfew, she has 400 a day and still hasn't locked that city down tight.

Not sure if I want to scream for being more depressed from more lockdown, or that NSW is taking this so flippantly still at this point compared to all other states. If they don't succeed, we're all still screwed.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Bob on Aug 16, 2021, 05:52:02 PM
If that is the case why are they still going without masks and going to the beach etc? :BangHead:

Damn... back to curfew for us. Don't ask Gladys though, according to her, NSW has the toughest lockdown settings in Australia and the world. We have 20 cases a day and getting curfew, she has 400 a day and still hasn't locked that city down tight.

Not sure if I want to scream for being more depressed from more lockdown, or that NSW is taking this so flippantly still at this point compared to all other states. If they don't succeed, we're all still screwed.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 16, 2021, 06:30:41 PM
I wish we could drag the minority doing the wrong thing, lock them up for the duration of lockdown behind bars, then see how much they like that instead of living by some tough rules at home. These miniority muppets are doing damage all over the country. The last strain we got away with it. This one... doesn't seem that way.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 16, 2021, 06:47:43 PM

I live in country Vic more than 200 km from the nearest Covid areas. We are not in lockdown like Melbourne, although the only real difference is we can sit down at a restaurant and travel more than 5 km from home. Still wear masks. Still can't visit family or friends, can't sing, can't dance, no clicking of heels, laughing etc etc.
What really gets up our noses is that we are flooded by visitors from Melbourne. Lockdown??? Ring of Steel??? Yeah, right.....  :dontknow: :BangHead: :sad10:
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Aug 17, 2021, 05:05:02 AM
We joined the lockdown club yesterday for 3 days.

Somebody from NSW who tested positive took a trip from Sydney to Canberra and from there flew to Darwin.
He drove a few kilometres away into Katherine town for work purposes.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-16/nt-covid-update-hugh-heggie-michael-gunner/100354990

I'm getting my second shot this Sunday.
Then Monday fly to Tennant Creek for work... I'm not holding my breath  :BangHead:

Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: oldpiscator on Aug 17, 2021, 09:04:34 AM

I live in country Vic more than 200 km from the nearest Covid areas. We are not in lockdown like Melbourne, although the only real difference is we can sit down at a restaurant and travel more than 5 km from home. Still wear masks. Still can't visit family or friends, can't sing, can't dance, no clicking of heels, laughing etc etc.
What really gets up our noses is that we are flooded by visitors from Melbourne. Lockdown??? Ring of Steel??? Yeah, right.....  :dontknow: :BangHead: :sad10:
Melburnian idiots came to Geelong last weekend to attend pubs and restaurants. Twenty turned back at one venue.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 17, 2021, 09:18:46 AM

Yeah, over 100 refused entry to hotels in Warrnambool on Sat. night... And they are only some of the younger ones venturing out on the town; must be hundreds more in holiday houses, other accommodation, etc.
Soon they'll outnumber the locals (that's if they don't infect us and cause us to be locked down yet again, and when this inevitably happens there will no longer be any incentive for them to be here  :BangHead:)

Providing we are not back in lockdown by Friday, I'm heading bush for a week or two - well away from these idiots... However, the last four trips we had planned were smashed at the last moment by lockdowns or border closures, so look out country Vic - probably back in lockdown Thursday night!
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 17, 2021, 09:21:02 AM
What really gets up our noses is that we are flooded by visitors from Melbourne. Lockdown??? Ring of Steel??? Yeah, right.....  :dontknow: :BangHead: :sad10:
It would piss me off too. I live in Melbourne and have no intention of leaving the area. Whilst I am fully vacinated, its still no excuse to put at risk everyone outside of Melbourne.
Melburnian idiots came to Geelong last weekend to attend pubs and restaurants. Twenty turned back at one venue.
Are these the young ones? Think rules don't apply to them?
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 17, 2021, 09:23:25 AM
Providing we are not back in lockdown by Friday, I'm heading bush for a week or two - well away from these idiots... However, the last four trips we had planned were smashed at the last moment by lockdowns or border closures, so look out country Vic - probably back in lockdown Thursday night!
Envious. Enjoy. We just had to cancel our Marysville holiday due to this lockdown. We have another one at Marysville in about 4 or 5 weeks the missus said... if lockdown allows.

I think it really sucks that people can't follow the damn rules for the greater good of all. Too many excuses being made.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Aug 17, 2021, 01:19:09 PM
Sadly it seems containment will never happen, even with all these economic collapse inducing lockdowns. Why people can't just get on with doing their own thing and take some personal responsibility for their own health is beyond me.
Don't want to vax? Fine, have some potentially lifelong issues if you do survive a bout of it.
Want to vax? Cool! Just realise you can still get and pass along Covid and it mightn't protect from all strains.

Its government overreach at its finest and everyone seems to be okay with it, thats what boggles my mind the most.

And for the record i've had my first jab, so don't come at me like i'm an anti-vaxer conspiracy theorist.  :nono:

Simon
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 17, 2021, 01:40:45 PM
Simon

I wholeheartedly agree with all you've said above. And I've now had both jabs, just because, hopefully, I might be able to be let loose.

Cheers, Jack
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 17, 2021, 02:42:31 PM
I agree with everything, other than whats not being said above.

Not everyone has had the opportunity to get vacinnated yet. There is a global shortage. Not anyones fault. Its a global pandemic. It would not have mattered how much Pfizer the Government ordered last year, or AZ, or Moderna, the vacinnes themselves are in short supply, high demand, globally. We would be exactly where we are right now still - more arms than vacine availability.

We started with the most at risk and have worked our way down to kids. Original strain didn't affect youth much, now this Delta one does. Apparently the other new one is even worse than Delta. How long before it finds its way here?

I think the world is frustrated. Its not limited to Australia. Unfortunately, all Australians need to be less selfish for the rest of this year until we can get all those who want a jab, jabbed. Then those who do not, suck it up and they suffer the consequences of their own decisions.

Right now... a lot of people haven't been given a fair right to make that choice.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 17, 2021, 03:58:13 PM

True; being a genuine 'Old Fart', I had no trouble getting both AZ jabs (gave up on the official govt phone booking system, ditto with the online booking - absolutely hopeless. We did walkups both times; no problem at all). One of my sons got in real early for both Pfiezer jabs; no probs. But the other son wasn't as quick off the mark and has only just recently got his first Pfiezer. Just about anyone can walk in for an AZ jab down here at any time. Still have to wait 12 weeks for the second AZ though...
I can and do sympathise with those who want a jab but can't get it just yet.
I have zero sympathy for those who blatantly break the rules and travel out of their lockdown area.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Aug 17, 2021, 05:12:19 PM
Theres only a shortage on the Pfizer because the government decided (unnamed parties, where does big pharma play into this decision?) to only setup production of AZ. There's more than enough AZ in the country to get us over the miracle threshold, but people don't want to be forced into using the least tested, unknown vaccine on the market.
An old adage about all your eggs in one basket comes to mind.

Stupid that they closed down the development at Queensland Uni, imagine what they might of come up with over 18 months of solid government funded development.

Simon
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Navigator on Aug 17, 2021, 05:46:17 PM
Theres only a shortage on the Pfizer because the government decided (unnamed parties, where does big pharma play into this decision?) to only setup production of AZ. There's more than enough AZ in the country to get us over the miracle threshold, but people don't want to be forced into using the least tested, unknown vaccine on the market.
An old adage about all your eggs in one basket comes to mind.

Stupid that they closed down the development at Queensland Uni, imagine what they might of come up with over 18 months of solid government funded development.

Simon

We don't currently have the ability to manufacture Pfizer's vaccine in this country as I understand it.  We can (and now do) manufacture AZ.  That, and the less stringent storage/handling requirements of AZ, were, I believe, the reasons for selecting it originally as first choice.  I'm no fan of Scotty from marketing, but to be fair, based on the information they had at the time, its hard to criticise the choice without the benefit of hindsight I think.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Aug 17, 2021, 07:00:58 PM
All the eggs went into the basket the rest of the world was saying no to, its dubious at best in my opinion.
As for the production, surely they could of gotten setup for Pfizer in the mean time. Theres multiple labs now producing AZ, surely you'd want to cover all bases and keep options open, This has been going on for nearly 2 years now remember.

I would of been more comfortable with a new home grown vaccine as opposed to the an unknown from overseas. Call it patriotism or pragmatism, but I'd be more willing to support an Australian designed drug than another overseas untested drug. Theres always going to be side effects and reactions to any vaccine, sadly everyone reacts differently and as we're seeing, people will die.

I just feel they did(as they usually do) a knee jerk reaction to mitigate the look of incompetence because they weren't planning ahead or taking it seriously enough. The inquests are going to be never ending once this all settles and the Leadership will give the same response as per usual "We acted upon the information that we had at the time", never do they say "We planned for the possibility and mitigated factor x and y because of it."


Simon
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 17, 2021, 08:10:59 PM
As for the production, surely they could of gotten setup for Pfizer in the mean time. Theres multiple labs now producing AZ, surely you'd want to cover all bases and keep options open, This has been going on for nearly 2 years now remember.
Yer, but remember, we didn't have a viable vacinne until the end of last year. That was the first time the world had access to a Covid vax. Everything was new. Nobody, not you, me, Scotty on the hill, could possibly have known which vax would be best at that time. They paid $$$ towards so many, hedging their bets. Some they lost on, others they won upon.

AZ was actually easier to make here if memory serves me correctly, as they were already making similar vacinnes here and only had to retool for it. Pfizer MRNA on the other hand, nothing like that is made here and Pfizers own reps have said it will take them 18+ months to get the gear here, setup, all the testing, then production.

This is all based on the first ever vax for covid hitting the market late 2020. We aren't as far on as people think we are for this. A vacinne created, tested and rolled out in a year. Holy crap. They have stated its never been done before. NEVER. This is a first in history.

Vacinnes typically take years to develop, years of testing, and maybe see the public 5 - 7 years later. That is normal. Nothing like that has happened with this globally.
Theres always going to be side effects and reactions to any vaccine, sadly everyone reacts differently and as we're seeing, people will die.
If only the media started with this in their criticism, which IMO has caused a lot of the issue in vax hesitancy. They created the story to now report on the issues due to their reporting of primarily the negatives. Journalism is dead. Simon... you should be writing the crap for channel 7 news so they stop the nonsense sensationalism to create drama, so they can then report on said drama. Write the truth and reality. Love it.

Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Aug 18, 2021, 05:30:57 AM
Guys,

The consecutive and ongoing stuff ups from the decision makers have all culminated into where we are as a nation and why we aren't out of this quagmire.

Scovid from marketing, the Beetrooter etc will keep on being who they are
Like them or not, same goes to a degree for "Dictator" Dan, "Marky Mark" McGowan, "Wicked" Gladys and every other politico.
Regardless of who won the seats in Parliaments, the winners will always be the likes of Gina, Murdoch, etc AND the lobbyists.

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the decision to
1. Mix the jabs for those who already had the AZ by following with the moderna or pfizer
2. Allow for a booster shot for any who had both jabs of the pfizer
3. Roll out a national vaccination program for jabs in each and every public school and retirement homes accross the nation. I remember back in the early 70s where my whole grade was jabbed against I think smallpox?
4. Lock down all national and international borders to NSW. That state is expected to spriral out of control. All international shipping can be redirected to Darwin!

As these decisions are made at a federal level, don't think I'm going to make prayers for any of the above to happen any time soon  :crybaby2:

Edit:- Some humour is much needed nationwide  :evil6:
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/08/17/three-years-morrison-declares-he-still-has-no-leadership-ambitions/
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Navigator on Aug 18, 2021, 09:09:27 AM
All the eggs went into the basket the rest of the world was saying no to, its dubious at best in my opinion.
As for the production, surely they could of gotten setup for Pfizer in the mean time. Theres multiple labs now producing AZ, surely you'd want to cover all bases and keep options open, This has been going on for nearly 2 years now remember.

I would of been more comfortable with a new home grown vaccine as opposed to the an unknown from overseas. Call it patriotism or pragmatism, but I'd be more willing to support an Australian designed drug than another overseas untested drug. Theres always going to be side effects and reactions to any vaccine, sadly everyone reacts differently and as we're seeing, people will die.

I just feel they did(as they usually do) a knee jerk reaction to mitigate the look of incompetence because they weren't planning ahead or taking it seriously enough. The inquests are going to be never ending once this all settles and the Leadership will give the same response as per usual "We acted upon the information that we had at the time", never do they say "We planned for the possibility and mitigated factor x and y because of it."


Simon

AZ is the most widely administered vaccine in the world, so I'm not sure who's shunning it. There have been recent news reports on establishing a facility capable of producing the Pfizer vaccine and others of it's type, probably in Victoria, but it needs funding before any actual construction starts, so at least two years away. I  agree that it would have been great to have an Australian developed vaccine, but it didn't happen.  I also agree the federal government got complacent with low numbers of infections and didn't roll out vaccines quickly enough. Remember "it's not a race ". Except now it is.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 18, 2021, 09:26:15 AM
Remember "it's not a race ". Except now it is.
My opinon based on my limited research.

This was more media machine spin. Morrison said "its not a race" in relation to having a safe vacinne for Australians, NOT, getting said safe vacinne into arms. Our status for covid infection was relatively low compared to the rest of the world, therefore we could basically sit back and let the world be guinea pigs for vacinne that was designed in world record time, without longevity testing that every other vacinne has gone through. Lets be honest - the discussion right now is still about whether the vacinnes are safe. That is the largest hesitancy we endure in Australia right now. Not even 1 year old vacinnes are used globally.

The media took that statement from its context and then ran with it outside its context of the discussion about vacinne safety for citizens. My understanding is that AZ is one of the largest given vacinnes in the world alongside Pfizer - both do the job effectively. I believe Moderna is the new kid on the block and so far has less side effects than both of these. Time will tell though compared to crap all doses of Moderna used compared to AZ and Pfizer.

Our media has done immense damage to our vacinne rollout. They should have taken a pro-vacinne stance from the get go and not helped create the mixed messages we now endure.

Me personally, I would hate to be one of the 10 -20% of people being hesitant or refusing it once they let their foot of the brake. As with other countries who have done this with 80%+ full vax status, those not vaxed are landing in hospital in droves / dying. Israel was the world leader, now Delta has crippled it.

All politicians are crap to some degree IMO - I think the media are worse.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: tom60 on Aug 18, 2021, 10:08:10 AM
IMHO lockdowns will continue with each outbreak until 80% of the population is vaccinated.  At that point the Fed's will declare lockdowns unnecessary; but it will be the state governments who decide.  They will likely base their decision on the popularity gained by having a lockdown vs the unpopularity of a lockdown and adverse economic impact. 

Vaccination doesn't guarantee you won't catch and transmit COVID.  Nor does it guarantee you won't die of COVID.  It just significantly reduces the likelihood.  Therefore the 20% who decide not to get vaccinated run a greater risk of contracting COVID and the associated health/fatality consequences.  In the first few years they may also find a number of their freedoms restricted (eg, travel) in an effort to prevent COVID spreading.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 18, 2021, 10:10:49 AM
but it will be the state governments who decide.  They will likely base their decision on the popularity gained by having a lockdown vs the unpopularity of a lockdown and adverse economic impact.
This is the part that bothers me most. They claim to agree at this time, but when you have 20% of Sydney and Melbourne infected, I want to see how WA responds to that, and other states, as to whether they stand by their words now.

I feel that holidaying outside your state in the near future may be unlikely, even with 80% vax.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Aug 18, 2021, 11:54:55 AM
It is official.
NSW hit 633 yesterday and 3 deaths
Gladys stated: "There were 633 cases of community transmission and at this stage there are at least 62 of those that were infectious in the community during that time."

It is spiralling methinks
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: tom60 on Aug 18, 2021, 04:27:57 PM
but it will be the state governments who decide.  They will likely base their decision on the popularity gained by having a lockdown vs the unpopularity of a lockdown and adverse economic impact.
This is the part that bothers me most. They claim to agree at this time, but when you have 20% of Sydney and Melbourne infected, I want to see how WA responds to that, and other states, as to whether they stand by their words now.

I feel that holidaying outside your state in the near future may be unlikely, even with 80% vax.

Politicians have more positions on a subject than the Karma Sutra.  To them nothing is black or white.. just 50 shades of grey. 

Here in the west we are currently COVID free and life is "normal".  However we have the lowest vaccination rate and are therefore more "at risk" of community spread.  Closing the state borders has created a 'chicken and egg' situation.  Closed borders means no COVID, so there is little incentive to vaccinate.  Low vaccine take-up means closed borders.  A poor vaccine program; mixed messaging about AZ; and a lack of pfizer hasn't helped.   My belief is once 80% is achieved the state government will open the borders to all who can prove they have been vaccinated.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 19, 2021, 08:14:05 PM


Providing we are not back in lockdown by Friday, I'm heading bush for a week or two - well away from these idiots... However, the last four trips we had planned were smashed at the last moment by lockdowns or border closures, so look out country Vic - probably back in lockdown Thursday night!

OK then; it's Thursday night and the ute is fuelled, water tanks full, all checks done, all camping gear loaded, fridge running and loaded with yummy food and beer,  it's almost 8pm and country Vic not yet 'snapped' back into a 'circuit breaker' lockdown, so we're all ready to depart at sparrows tomorrow for parts northern! ;D

We are more excited now than we were in 2019 (last decent trip pre-covid) when we headed off for a 17000 km trip that covered every mainland state with the highlight being from the Alice west to Marble Bar via Desert Queen baths.

So sad how our expectations have continued to steadily diminish due to #&*+ing covid - this trip is a few hundred kms north to the Murray River; still within frosty Vic. Ah well, we know some spots on the river that are extremely unlikely to be overrun with 'locked down' Melbourne people, unlike our home town... We will be a hell of a lot safer out in the bush than at home in country Vic!

And now that I've learnt how to post pics and comments from my smartarse phone, I may just make those of you in Melbourne and NSW jealous with pics n comments re our daring, adventurous and remote journey into the unknown wilds of northern Victoria...
 
(then again, I might be enjoying the serenity too much to bother!)

Cheers, Jack
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Aug 20, 2021, 05:31:55 AM
A physicist from UniMelb has posted predictions on the NSW fiasco:
https://chrisbillington.net/COVID_NSW.html
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 20, 2021, 06:26:29 AM
Enjoy Jack.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 21, 2021, 11:26:34 AM
And now that I've learnt how to post pics and comments from my smartarse phone, I may just make those of you in Melbourne and NSW jealous with pics n comments re our daring, adventurous and remote journey into the unknown wilds of northern Victoria...
 
(then again, I might be enjoying the serenity too much to bother!)
I hope you enjoyed Jack, reading this after the fact, and now you're back in lockdown too. Sorry mate. Atleast you got a weekend away, as I assume you don't have reception out camping already, so you will discover this on your return. Enjoy it whilst you can.

I feel sad that I have a new Dmax for two weeks with only 80km on the clock, most of which was driving it back from Werribee and the missus taking it for a local run around to try it out. The way this outbreak is going, I'll be lucky to have 100km on it by Christmas - most of which will be doing Bunnings click and collect (if that doesn't endup canned too due to infection outbreak.)
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: wj957 on Aug 21, 2021, 01:49:40 PM
Well, up in brizzy there's nothing happening, I think. Don't do TV n social media, here is the exception.
Work was slow for me on Friday, so I made an executive decision and buggered off bush to the Scenic Rim Adventure Park about 30k south of Beaudesert. Mind you, I'm 4wd-less. Took the Falcon ute, swag, esky & a tarp. Oh, and rum. Can't really do any driving but sitting in the bush high up on a Ridge with views of the valley is awesome compared to a tilt slab concrete wall.
Just in case Anna has a brain fart.

Great photos on my phone, sorry puta numpty here.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: VALKIE on Aug 21, 2021, 04:02:38 PM
After the latest moron protest, you will be entering a new phase of lockdown in a couple of weeks.

The Sydney morons had their protest 3 weeks ago and we now have over 800 infections.

What is wrong with these people?
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 21, 2021, 04:17:12 PM
WAI4WD,
Yep, Danned yet again... In lockdown, we must stay within 5 km of home. Here is pics of my home on the Murray.  :laughing7: :laughing7:1 :hello2: ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/HPJDSqq/DSC-0002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HPJDSqq)

(https://i.ibb.co/263XT3m/DSC-0004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/263XT3m)

(https://i.ibb.co/WWm4MQs/DSC-0108-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WWm4MQs)

(https://i.ibb.co/SwTRr2d/DSC-0107-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SwTRr2d)
Pics 3 and 4 (if there are any at all) are last nights home
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 21, 2021, 04:28:43 PM

Fair Dinkum; I'm rapidly heading towards being a computer nerd.... If you look closely at the (shitty...) pics above, you might see on the table a laptop!! (which is connected to the inverter which is being powered by the solar panels) This is an absolute first for us - travelling with a bloody computer AND being able to use it AND my phone to put posts n pics up here. Result of all of this - me spending hours on bloody devices while camped beside a river in beautiful bush instead of admiring the view and the serenity while drinking beer. Well past time I got off devices and into cans  :occasion14:

Cheers, Jack Nerd
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 21, 2021, 04:43:38 PM
The Sydney morons had their protest 3 weeks ago and we now have over 800 infections.
Yup. I reckon we're screwed too.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 21, 2021, 04:49:17 PM
Yep, Danned yet again... In lockdown, we must stay within 5 km of home. Here is pics of my home on the Murray.
Mate, love it. Beautiful sunset you have there.
This is an absolute first for us - travelling with a bloody computer AND being able to use it AND my phone to put posts n pics up here.
That is my missus and why I need a specific setup in the ute and camper for her use. If they made Starlink mobile, then we would have that too, as she wouild demand fast internet anywhere.
admiring the view and the serenity while drinking beer.
That is me. I'll be walking about or drinking or taking pics / video of whats happening around me.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Aug 21, 2021, 05:10:58 PM
Bunnings click and collect (if that doesn't endup canned too due to infection outbreak.)

You had to put the hee-bees on it didn't you  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Aug 21, 2021, 05:55:35 PM

You had to put the hee-bees on it didn't you  :laughing7:
Sorry... you're right. I recant all said and burn the hee-bees to the ground to not mess any further with Bunnings access.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Aug 22, 2021, 05:12:35 AM
Jack,

If not already, could turn the phone into a hotspot.

What sort of tub do you have on the back?
Ar work we have a holden colorado with an oppositelock tub and the side mirrors are just about useless.
Mentioned to the fleet guy to replace them with clearviews.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: tom60 on Aug 22, 2021, 10:59:15 AM
After the latest moron protest, you will be entering a new phase of lockdown in a couple of weeks.

The Sydney morons had their protest 3 weeks ago and we now have over 800 infections.

What is wrong with these people?
These people sincerely and correctly believe everyone has rights and freedoms.  However they fail to accept this also come with equal obligations and responsibilities.

Therefore it's an individual's right and freedom to choose not to be vaccinated and equally their obligation and responsibility to take actions (or not take actions) to protect the freedom and rights of others.

The current education system teaches children about their rights and freedoms.  Unfortunately nowhere near the same emphasis is placed on obligations and responsibilities.   
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 22, 2021, 11:03:54 AM
yvesjv

Only reason we have the laptop with us for the first time is because Son nbr 2 (who calls me "Roadkill on the Information Highway") insisted that it was way past time I learnt put the smartarse phone on a lead so we could then use the laptop while camping. Good in theory but we don't often camp where there is ph reception (are today; won't be tomorrow...).
He wants to encourage me to use this shite more often/extensively. Until now, I've been content using the phone to get weather forecasts, emails, text messages etc. To go any further involves typing and reading what's on the screen - both of these actions difficult for a half-blind old fart with fat mangled fingers and a tiny screen phone. I have used this as an excuse to not reply to the kids requests while camping. Son nbr 2 not happy with my ignoring his requests for assistance while away, hence his tutorial on tying the ph to the bloody laptop, and why tomorrow we're shifting camp (still on the Murray) to where there are even fewer people and NO ph reception  :laughing7:.
Still have to use the ph if I want to post a pic though, don't know how to take pic with ph but post with laptop...

And there is no 'tub' on the ute; it's an AWL fibreglass canopy with integrated alloy tray. The stock mirrors are OK (just). Have fitted rearview camera, and canopy has front and rear windows so inside rv mirror still works well.

Got to get off this bloody device now as the scones are about to come out of the camp oven, homemade plum jam, whipped cream ready, and billy boiled.  :occasion14:

Cheers, Jack
 
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Aug 22, 2021, 04:24:51 PM
I have used this as an excuse to not reply to the kids requests while camping. Son nbr 2 not happy with my ignoring his requests for assistance while away, hence his tutorial on tying the ph to the bloody laptop, and why tomorrow we're shifting camp (still on the Murray) to where there are even fewer people and NO ph reception  :laughing7:.

Just plain awesome Jack  :cup:
Hope you both enjoy the serenity and tranquility while camping.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 30, 2021, 02:44:57 PM

Still enduring lockdan, isolating on the Murray.


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Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 30, 2021, 03:04:29 PM

Please tolerate my pitiful efforts at posting....
Now trying to take pictures with the bloody tablet and then post from it. New and difficult confusing ground for an old techtard. Until now, this tablet was used solely for navigation and mounted permanently on dash.

(https://i.ibb.co/3rhWcdt/IMG-20210830-102840.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3rhWcdt)
Ready to add homemade plum jam and freshly whipped cream for morning tea. Geez, I hate roughing it... ;D

Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 30, 2021, 03:23:08 PM


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Beer o'clock last night

Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Aug 31, 2021, 06:28:03 AM
Beer o'clock last night

Where is the fishing gear?
Bonus points if your better half knows how to dig for worms!
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Aug 31, 2021, 10:43:04 AM
yvesjv,
Most would agree with you, but we have been spoiled having almost unlimited supplies of no cost salt water seafood. Consequently, we are not particularly enamoured with fresh water fish. Also, as a recently retired pro fisherman, I'd rather sit on the riverbank and drink beer!
Cheers, Jack
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Sep 02, 2021, 07:35:13 AM
Received this youtube joke and this is funny.
Good luck to the people of NSW  :evil6:

EDITED:
Removed link to potentially harmful material.

Moderator
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: mux339 on Sep 02, 2021, 11:30:25 AM
I actually find it offensive, and deeply disrespectful. But it's typical of the leftist socialist commentary that emanates from the media and the gutless trolls on social media.

We'd all be far better off if these same people that generate this crap stood up, showed some genuine Australian spirit, and did something constructive for their community, rather than sit in their hovels behind a computer spending their waking hours being destructive.

There was a day when Australians respected their leaders regardless of what side of the political fence they sat. If they didn't like them they changed them at the next election. But in the meantime, they at least displayed some courtesy and respect.

Why can't we all be constructive in these difficult times?
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: oldpiscator on Sep 02, 2021, 12:24:03 PM
I personally find this disgusting. Don't like Gladys but this is uncalled for.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: wj957 on Sep 02, 2021, 04:14:57 PM
Well, I thought it was funny. :laughing7:
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Sep 02, 2021, 04:47:29 PM
It has a humorous side to it, but a very real and scary undertone. Australia really is becoming a police state more and more.
Anyone not aware of this should do a bit of reading and just think what it means when misused.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/25/australian-powers-to-spy-on-cybercrime-suspects-given-green-light (https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/25/australian-powers-to-spy-on-cybercrime-suspects-given-green-light)
Its scary that this got rushed through government within 24 hours to be mandated that warrants are no longer required on some things that are very vaguely worded and easily left open for misinterpretation, that will only be argued in a court after they've been (ab)used.

No offense to some of our older members, but the Government isn't what it use to be. Bob Hawke was the last relatable PM this country had. Politicians since have been pencil pushing, back stabbing elites from influential families that seem to always have some kind of questionable incidents in the not too distant past, Daryl Maguire in this instance.

Simon
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: mux339 on Sep 02, 2021, 05:27:06 PM
... Its scary that this got rushed through government within 24 hours ...

You mis-represent the case. The legislation was rushed through Parliament within 24 hours...with the full bipartisan support of the Labor Opposition. The only whingers are the crossbenchers who weren't given the courtesy of a reading. Why would you bother briefing them in when there is bilateral agreement among Liberal, National and Labor MPs that the legislation is necessary? There are too many egos on the crossbench, and you can't trust them to not have a spray in the direction of the media who have no national security credentials whatsoever....regardless of what they think about their own importance.

Scaremongers. There needs to be balance in this debate. You will only fear this legislation if you are a criminal.

For other readers, a quote from the article Seshman linked:

The Labor MP Andrew Giles told the lower house on Tuesday the opposition supported the bill because “the cyber-capabilities of criminal networks have expanded, and we know that they are using the dark web and anonymising technology to facilitate serious crime, which is creating significant challenges for law enforcement”.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Sep 02, 2021, 05:31:25 PM
I tend to think that funny stuff, done in jest, should be left that way, and not taken outside its context of being funny. I found it funny.

Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: mux339 on Sep 02, 2021, 05:36:51 PM
Your sense of context is very narrow...in my opinion.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: jack-fc on Sep 02, 2021, 05:46:52 PM
I treat politicians of all persuasions with the same respect, compassion and consideration that they show for me, my family and friends.
Which is why I found it funny (although Dan would have been a far better subject than Gladys...)
We are all entitled to our own opinion, and I respect that right much more than I respect any politician.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Sep 02, 2021, 06:31:06 PM

Scaremongers. There needs to be balance in this debate. You will only fear this legislation if you are a criminal.


Is that a consolation when the potential is there to frame you to look like a criminal?

Take the Port Arthur gun reforms for example, its done very little to curb gun violence in the country.
"There won't be a vaccine passport" - Does that statement still look to be correct?
 
Politicians like to play on on the publics feelings of the moment to push through sweeping new powers that push the envelope for what is mostly unnecessary oversight and an invasion of privacy for the average law abiding citizen.
I don't know about you, but I like my law abiding business to be mine and mine alone. Knowing someone is gathering meta data and reading my personal data let alone being able to modify it doesn't sit well with me. Just because its flown under the banner of good intentions doesn't make the people utilizing it pillars of virtue and unquestionable good intentions.

I don't trust politicians as far as I can throw them. The system they operate in is tilted to keep them in power and in control, when did it stop being about bettering the country and instead have the "public servants" control the populace.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: WAI4WD on Sep 02, 2021, 07:18:23 PM
I think political discussion is a recipe for disaster. But thats me.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: wj957 on Sep 02, 2021, 08:15:03 PM
I'VE SEEN TOO MANY GOOD FORUMS DESTROYED BY PEOPLE GETTING POLITICAL

THIS HERE IS AN ISUZU FORUM


Three things you don't discuss in public son, sex politics and religion.

If you wanna have a spray, go join some tree huggin greeny / uni student protest and K-OFF!
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: mux339 on Sep 02, 2021, 08:39:09 PM
Received this youtube joke and this is funny.
Good luck to the people of NSW  :evil6:
EDITED:
Removed link to potentially harmful material.
Moderator

Now that I've done my dinner duty, I have a chance to sit down and justify myself...not that I want to, but I feel compelled.

This forum has been set up to be family friendly, a status that you all signed up to on joining. I understand that some of you find the concocted video terribly funny. Others may not, and may have some concerns about its appearance on this forum. My concern about Yves's post is that it can be viewed and clicked on by family members, daughters, granddaughters, nieces, nephews etc with unintended consequences. Just think for a moment what a 13-year old impressionable, inquisitive young lady may feel when she sees Gladys threatening to blow her face off. Are you OK with that?

You'll probably retort that same girl can see same video in her daily trawl of social media on her own tablet or smartphone. Yes, but on this forum we have a collective duty of care to all of our family members to not proliferate potentially harmful material.

Remember, 13-year old girls don't necessarily have the same sense of humour that you blokes do. I ask you to sit down and watch it again with an open mind (forget the artistry for a moment), and focus on what is being said, and then imagine yourself with a 13-year old daughter, niece, grandchild sitting on your knee.

It's a defamatory, derogatory, destructive video, purposefully designed to include threatening language that Gladys never intended...certainly not for consumption by 13-year olds.

If you want a mature, blokey forum where jokes that come close to the bone are tolerated, then I think you have the wrong forum. Just have a think before you post gents.

Thanks for reading this far.

Russ
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Seshman on Sep 03, 2021, 08:40:13 AM
Last response in regards to politics, even though it was brought up in a thread talking about political matters, perhaps if you dont like reading about them... don't?
The people who live in Melbourne can understand the frustration for those of us living in Sydney, its not a very nice thing to be experiencing and it grates on the nerves after a while and you just get sick of seeing the over payed mouths move and nothing changes.

@wj957 - I'm a hunter and a tradie who's never been to University, does that mean I can't have an opinion? I'd classify myself as closer to a libertarian, not a lefty fyi.
You know what they say about assuming.

I don't have any social media accounts and I don't watch the news channels. I like to be informed by doing my own research on matters that interest me, which requires more work but it gives you more context and a better insight on the subject matter. Technology is rapidly more integrated and ingrained in our society and becoming the norm as opposed to occasional and we're all accepting of it because of the ease of use it brings. My personal data is something that I'd like to keep personal, how you use yours is upto you but I'd much prefer to be in control of it and limit who see's what.

In regards to the video, I'll admit I didn't think of it in that context Russ, but its a valid point. I can admit ignorance to if there was a minimum age requirement on signup, or a warning for mature content? Either way I did sign up to a forum that was family orientated and i'll try to keep my content in line with that. That said, I like to laugh too, perhaps we need a mature area to post things that don't break the rules but are some what age sensitive?

Maybe i'm just angry because all the upgrades for the Dmax I bought keep getting delayed and the shop is just not keeping me appraised or doing their job properly, this dribs and drabs installing is very frustrating!

Anyway, hope you all are keeping well and these lockdowns end soon.

Rant over,
Simon
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: Aaron S on Sep 03, 2021, 10:05:24 AM

Maybe i'm just angry because all the upgrades for the Dmax I bought keep getting delayed and the shop is just not keeping me appraised or doing their job properly, this dribs and drabs installing is very frustrating!



This ^^^^^^ is doin my head in, don’t tell me that I will see X product this date, then every week after I chase up the company, I get told, next week.

I understand a week or two, but I am waiting on product that is heading into three months.
Straight up tell a customer what the delivery date is, if it changes, email or ring and give an update.

 :occasion14:
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: yvesjv on Sep 03, 2021, 10:36:09 AM
Guys,

Apologies to any who found this disrespectful, tasteless, etc

But I have no respect for any politician (left, right, center, above, etc) who is willing to see some of us die (yep, I'm at risk due to health), have no meaningful/effective lockdown, remove pitiful restrictions and all that so the economy can get a boost.

And if you met the guy who sent this joke and myself, don't think you could paint us as leftist, tree-huggers, etc either. That we are not.

The discontent towards our current pollies is palpable.
And if we can joke about this sad lot, we will.
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: tom60 on Sep 03, 2021, 11:16:58 AM
Well I thought it was extremely funny and laughed until there were tears in my eyes.  I didn't view it as offensive or threatening and was actually rather surprised by the negative comments.  I don't suppose I should have been surprised as were all humans and therefore have widely varying opinions on almost everything.

For example my Isuzu is a manual.  I can't understand why someone would want to pay more for something a coordinated person can do using one hand and foot.   :laughing7:
Title: Re: Is Vic going into another lockdown?
Post by: wj957 on Sep 03, 2021, 04:03:29 PM
Yeah guys, that's why I created the "Just Jokes" thread in the 'off topics' section of the forum.

Some are cheeky smart arse's (like me), and other people don't share my warped sense of humour.
So we need to be locked in a room by ourselves from time to time .......................
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