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General Boards => Off Topic => Topic started by: yvesjv on Mar 06, 2022, 10:12:09 AM
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Read on a geek forum that some guy had enough of his sh#t service with Vodavone/NBN and cancelled it when his starlink order arrived.
His reported download speed is now just over 130 mbps download.
I'd be very interested on the upload but nothing on that yet.
Others are reporting 80 to 100 when it is raining... goodbye NBN?
I think not yet if you are close to a city and have a fibre connection to the home combined with a reliable ISP.
But if you are remote, looking at you Arnhem land and similar.
This becomes a viable option.
Also saw this on their website "Our network is limited in the number of users we can accommodate in any one area, based on the design of our low Earth orbit satellite constellation".
First in, bess dressed!
Meanwhile, looks like I'll have to wait for awhile before I decide to relocate to Berry Springs or further out.
Unofficial coverage map: https://starlink.sx/
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A better map for you: https://satellitemap.space/
Vic, Tas, ACT all full coverage. NSW nearly, the rest is mainly just the key city and population areas at present. Remote Australia (North SA, NT, North WA, West Qld) is still zero coverage.
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Dont know what you lot are complaining about.
On a good day I can get a massive 20mbps
but most days I struggle with 10mbps
And on a bad day, if its running, I can get 3 to 5 mbps
Good old telstra
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Telstra in Adelaide speeed test
26.9 megb/sec download and 4.5meg upload
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I always miss my internet speed when away from home.
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I always miss my internet speed when away from home.
Yeah but nope you don't need starlink :cup:
OTOH, have you tested with tracetcp?
I used it awhile back to prove to Netcomm their routers were sh#t and a bottleneck.
At your speed, you are either gaming or running a few servers at home... you do not want bottlenecks.
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At your speed, you are either gaming or running a few servers at home... you do not want bottlenecks.
Me? Servers and lots of upload required for the wifes work which is all online MYOB nowadays. The last time I looked at bandwidth, I think we're using about 2.5TB a day.
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I see Starlink have now enabled roaming for limited beta testing with US clients. Good to see that soon it will meet a good majorities needs by allowing portability without having to change address. The moment that's available here in Australia, is the same moment I buy one for all our travelling.
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There are a couple of people experimenting/being guinea pigs for/with roaming here in Australia I believe, but because of the limited coverage, it really is not a viable system yet for full-scale, free for all, roaming. In fact, Starlink is being silent on roaming and does not yet acknowledge it is a possibility. Even in the USA, it is not fully endorsed yet. I do not think it will be sold into Australia until there is a much greater coverage Australia-wide. The hopeful (but unrealistic) expectations of users would not be worth the help-desk hassle it would create if released now. There are still too many technical difficulties to be ironed out.
The Starlink system is designed to deliver high-speed internet to those in remote locations, with fixed locations and where poor internet access -or even no access- was/is possible.
I certainly beats the pants off Skymuster who is losing customers at a great rate. It is not intended for areas where there is already reasonable FTN, FNN, etc. It is more $$ than Skymuster and land-based Internet. The upside is the high speeds (up to 200Mb) and low latency that the Starlink system provides.
It really is still in "Betta" mode, despite some announcements to the contrary. Reliable coverage 24/7 is not guaranteed. In fact. over the last few weeks. there have been many disgruntled customers complaining of poor speeds/ drop-outs, and poor response from support (which has been very responsive beforehand).
The system relies on a large number (apparently some 40,000 eventually - yes 40,000) of low-orbit satellites (about 300-500km above the earth) moving across the sky worldwide and a network of ground stations connected (for us) to the Australian fiber back-bone. The customers' dish finds a passing satellite and latches on to it, passing signals from the customer to the satellite which in turn then passes the signal to the closest ground station it can see, and hence then to the WWW. As the satellite goes out of range of either the customer or a ground station, the customer dish searches/latches onto a different satellite and the customers' service continues uninterrupted (sort of, though most customers normally do not see any loss of service).
Limitations to date are the number of satellites and the number of ground stations. It is a lack of ground stations currently impacting coverage here in Australia.
Due to the capacity of each satellite to handle only a limited number of customer dishes, the total number of customers in any one area is restricted by Starlink for any given area until more satellites are in the sky.
If no ground station exists, then there is no Starlink available at all, even though there may be satellites overhead.
Satellites with interconnecting laser beams to help spread the load are starting to be sent up and will help the coverage.
Roaming will come, but it is tantalizingly just out of reach at the moment.
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For me and the wife, travelling in Victoria, its perfect. $140 a month is well worth it to us when we start travelling more, and the entire of Victoria is already covered with base stations, so no issues in Victoria and near half of NSW is covered already, all of Tasmania is also covered.
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For me and the wife, travelling in Victoria, its perfect. $140 a month is well worth it to us when we start travelling more, and the entire of Victoria is already covered with base stations, so no issues in Victoria and near half of NSW is covered already, all of Tasmania is also covered.
Just be aware that at the moment, roaming is not supported.
The problem is that Starlink, as sold, is intended for a single address, permanently fixed, solution, and sold on that express condition. The purchaser has to specify the address it will be installed at and Starlink then consults their distribution/spread/load and approve the install/purchase or not. Anyone can not just go and purchase one. Starlink is the only supplier and they control tightly everything.
Starlink has divided the world up into approx 200km across hexagons - called cells. They seem to allocate a certain number of users to each cell and when that cell is full then there are no more sales. They do not advise the what and why-for for approval or "just hang there and wait on the waitlist till some variable time in the future". So if your 1km away neighbor has a Starlink service and has had it for 10 months but when you go to purchase, you could be rejected (no advice given that you have been denied and put on hold) because the cell is full. Conversely, you could be in an adjoining cell that is not full and get approved almost immediately. There is no way of knowing if approval will be granted until you put down a reasonable (Starlink defined), deposit. The hardware is not shipped to you until they approve your connection and you pay the full amount for the hardware.
There are a number of conditions Starlink put on relocating your dish
The only way of moving around is to apply for a new connection in a new location (that you are going to), described by street address or geo-location. You may or may not be granted a connection in the new location. You could just move any rate as some have without advising Starlink. Some have found they have got to their new address (in an adjacent cell) and have been OK. Others have found it just does not work and Starlink is not helpful in enabling them at the new address. It seems some dishes are geo-locked to the sold address. Once you leave/transfer/move to a new address, there is no guarantee you can get back to your old address as your "spot" has most likely been now allocated to a new customer and you are out in the cold. A number of people have found themselves in this situation.
Then again, there seems to be different software loaded into some later supplied dishes that enable roaming (all the electronics are contained within the dish. There is only a special power supply/combination router on the end of the single cable to the dish). Some seem to have this roaming
function but still get no service if they move unannounced into a full cell.
The selling second-hand of your dish is also not allowed by Starlink. It must be returned to them, so there is not a second-hand market, though some people seem to be finding workarounds for this.
Keep hanging in there. By the time you are ready to roam, so may Starlink.
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Awesome info Bookleaf, thank you :cup:
Not sure if you have a finger on that pulse but I'd like to know what the plans are for remote locations?
We have staff visiting Yirrkala, Galiwinku, etc
Having a 50/50 would be enough for a couple of researchers visiting.
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Nobody knows what Startlinks' plans are.
At the moment if you draw a rough line from north of Perth to about Marla to north of Brisbane and they currently provide service south of this line (except for the Nullarbor). It has not reached Alice springs. They seem to be concentrating on moving up the east coast.
If you google "Starlink coverage" you will find links to a map that shows the current coverage worldwide. Zoom in to Australia. Identify the ground station locations and which of those are live. This will give you an indication of the current coverage or planned coverage in the future.
Further to roaming capabilities - I read that in the USA there are more and more users finding the supplied dish has roaming capabilities. Don't hold your breath for roaming to be available in Australia any time soon as it requires more than just the dish software, but seeing it is becoming more prevalent in the USA, then it may be here sooner than earlier anticipated.
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Thanks for the info.
Just had a look at the first link google came up with: https://starlink.sx/
The satellites are above the HT... but no ground gateways.
NZ is laughing at us again... first they have their NBN done right and now with Starlink:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1H1x8jZs8vfjy60TvKgpbYs_grargieVw&ll=-25.89955160266103%2C135.09510049719665&z=4
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Just thought I would update this thread with the latest info I have come across.
Starlink is now approved for roaming.
Some conditions
- It costs an additional $35Au/month to enable roaming, over and above the normal monthly fee.
- You can turn on and off roaming at your leisure
- you will be charged for a full month (billing cycle) for any part of any month (billing cycle) that roaming was enabled
- Service is on a "best-effort" basis. If you move into an area where there is a waitlist for new users, then your service will/may be degraded, disabled for short periods, or maybe throttled.
- If you remain stationary (remain in the same cell - even though you may move around?) for more than 2 months (billing cycles), you may be asked/forced to change your home address to your current location. This will disconnect you from your true home location which may cause problems if/when you return to your true home location.
- Use while on the move is not allowed.
- Is only available in the country of original registration (no international roaming)
- Is only available in enabled areas ( see Starlink coverage map)
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Giddie Up. Thanks for the update.
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Thanks for the news.
For a remote business out in the Kimberleys, it would be gold.
Do we know who is giving them a pipe for the ground stations probably doing the local routing?
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For a remote business out in the Kimberleys, it would be gold.
Kimberley is not covered yet. I believe Nth Qld will be done before Nth WA. Population and all.
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Hmm, nice and informative but I do not trust this map...
It shows a fictitious country known as Tasmania!
See attached for future reference.
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I read that Birdsville is right on the northern edge of the current coverage map. There are people there at the moment who have enabled the mobile option and are trying it out for others with the Big Red Bash attendance in mind.
Apparently, the map is quite accurate. Just north of town coverage drops off quickly but south of town, and near the Bash area, it seems to be OK.
Also, Starlink has just announced that by the end Q3 2022, coverage will be expanded in a triangle area from the current northern border up to Mackay and back to the north of Lake Eyre.
There is no expansion announced for the West Coast as of yet. Just north of Geraldton is the current limit.
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Also, Starlink has just announced that by the end Q3 2022, coverage will be expanded in a triangle area from the current northern border up to Mackay and back to the north of Lake Eyre.
There is no expansion announced for the West Coast as of yet. Just north of Geraldton is the current limit.
Bookleaf, you're a legend. Keep it coming and thanks for the updates.
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Starlink has just announced in the last 24hrs that, not only do they now sanction roaming, they actually have a system available to enable users to use just the "portability" function.
No different to what some have been doing off their own bat with a bit of fiddling, but now a purchasable, endorsed, with true roaming (new name - Portability) functionality.
Here is one of the links to the details.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/spacex-announces-starlink-for-rvs/?fbclid=IwAR1LwQu3tTnjV5ZwOIUodjL2j5V7MkuXN2Rv2C4ORrTcrF8DuSCtT69j-j8
Dollars are in $US I assume.
This is available in Australia - now
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STARLINK FOR RVS.
Best Effort Service for RV Users. Network resources are always deprioritized for Starlink RVs users compared to other Starlink Services, resulting in degraded service and slower speeds in congested areas and during peak hours. Stated speeds and uninterrupted use of the Service are not guaranteed. Service degradation will occur most often in "Waitlist" areas designated on the Starlink Availability Map during peak usage hours. See the Starlink Specifications for expected performance of the Starlink for RV Services.
Limitation and Requirements or RV Users. Starlink for RV can only be used within the same continent as the registered shipping address. If you use Starlink for RV Services for more than two months in a country that is different than your shipping address, you will be required to move your registered address to your new location or purchase an additional Starlink to maintain Service.
Interesting... you can actually use starlink outside your country for less than 2 months.
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The yanks now have Starlink for RVs
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/fcc-authorizes-spacex-to-use-starlink-internet-service-on-vehicles-in-motion
Hopefully not long for approval over here.
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Hopefully not long for approval over here.
We already have it. You can buy it now. You have to buy the equipment, pay the first month, then you can place your account on hold after that, no billing, until you need to use it again. It costs an extra fee too.
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Updated: you reminded me I had to buy this, just purchased the RV system.
Even better, if you get the kit within 7 days of it shipping, no delays, then you can pause the service if not using immediately, so you don't pay the first months $170 charge.
My wife cannot have crap internet, or none, when we travel, business necessity.
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Starlink for RV allows you to access Services at any destination where Starlink provides active coverage. After placing a Starlink for RV Order, you will be charged a one-time hardware fee and a monthly subscription fee at the beginning of your billing cycle (14 days after shipping). The monthly subscription fee will be ongoing unless you pause your Service. When the Starlink for RV is enabled, you will be charged the fee on your next monthly invoice, in full monthly increments, which cannot be pro-rated. The Service can be paused and reactivated at any time. If you choose to pause Service in the first month, you must do so within 7 days of the Kit’s shipping date, or you will be charged for the entire first month of Service. Starlink for RV and billing charges will be ongoing until you disable the Service via your Starlink account. Supply of RV Services is subject to network and equipment availability.
https://www.starlink.com/account/legal/documents/DOC-1029-53044-64?regionCode=AU
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What is the down link and link speed like?
Thanks
Mark
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Starlink has pretty decent speeds. Youtube has heaps of reviews. In crappy conditions 20-30Mbps up/down is normal, which is better than most get on NBN, and normal speeds are typically around 100+Mbps down and 50+Mbps up. Really good days, not many on a ground connection, people have surpassed 200+Mbps down and 150+Mbps up. Lot of factors involved.
The typical ping though is 100-200ms, being satellite and all.
Whilst you connect to a satellite, your signal may bounce via several sats to hit a ground relay. Depends on where you are in relation to ground stations, how many satellites you have to traverse, weather, visibility from the dish to satellite, etc etc.
People generally only have a good experience with it compared to trying to get mobile data. Sometimes mobile data may be better available than whipping out the starlink dish. If you were in a caravan park near 5G, and you have 5G, then starlink is useless.
If you're in the lower half of Australia, at time of writing, you have starlink coverage. If you travel places that has none or poor internet with any regularity, then starlink RV can probably save you a lot of headaches, but it will still cost you $170 per month you activate it, and they do not pro-rata or any such thing, so if you turn it on at the end of the month and are away into the next month, you're going to pay two months access. That is my understanding of the TOS.
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Thanks for that
A friend is looking at getting it for there caravan, I understand all the satellite stuff as she asked me to have a quick look. But knowing what people are getting in real life is better than guessing than I can explain limiting of factors, like rain and why line of sight of satellite is important.
Cheers
Mark
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The typical ping though is 100-200ms, being satellite and all.
Can you do the usual IP connectivity tests?
I'm really interested in knowing what IP range they are using in Australia and who is providing the backhaul,
A traceroute or tracetcp could show something.
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Here is a good review in Australia across different weather conditions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLQsSM2Kpd0
He got 30ms ping, which is pretty amazing. Again, many factors. My unit has not arrived yet, I only just ordered it. An associate of ours has it, who lives rural, so I do know someone with it and have used it at their rural location, and it works as advertised per reviews I've watched on Youtube.
The RV service is different than the fixed service, because the RV interrupts fixed service connections by entering their zone and stealing some of their bandwidth, hence the RV service will connect, but MAY get limited a little compared to fixed systems, to ensure you don't screw with those fixed systems, ie. too many RV connections in a location already assigned as FULL, so each RV connection in that area will be speed limited whilst in that area if fixed service is using the system.
My understanding that priority is given to fixed systems, then left over shared to RV systems entering any given area. But with RV you WILL get internet in any area covered by starlink, where moving address with the fixed system as people are doing now, you do not get internet in many areas marked as full.
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Followed that link and found they have two 100gbps services going through the Sydney internet exchange.
That is on a par with some of the big players like Netflix for example.
I think the ip address range to allocate to Oz users will not be that big... first come, best dressed ;)
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I would expect the old random IP assignment with every connection. Shocked why they're not using IPv6 out of the gate.
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They sent my RV kit earlier this week, got it in 2 days. As per the terms, you get up to the first 5 days from shipping to use it until your billing cycle begins, mine is the 22nd of each month. Obviously this must vary based on every user. Hell of a billing system they have going there.
The moment they assign it to your account, the RV one this is, you can go in and pause the service. I wanted to see if it got here within 5 days to test, and so I just did that. Went down the end of the street with the wagon, using its 400W Enerdrive inverter, starlink RV ran from that with no issues. I didn't expect it to draw much, but the satellite motor was the unknown for me. But that seems to be pretty low power too.
Being in Melbourne, obstructions everywhere, the end of my street is covered with trees, so I setup there to see how it would go. The sat settled pointing through the gum trees and still gave respectable speeds (60 / 5) or so down/up on mobile, with obstructions (limiting factor seems to be mobile to router connection). I wanted to see how it would go with obstructions because chances are, trees will always be an issue for us when camping.
It got up to 200+ down through the trees, but still only 5 or less up via the trees. Obviously not ideal with satellite positioning, but realistic for my use. Had some varying speeds through the trees, but internet.
Happy days. Clear positions are only going to be better, so i can live with that. Pausing the service automatically sets it to disable at your next billing date. You need mobile reception to activate again, well, I haven't tried remote yet without service, so not sure if starlink will allow you account access. Based on everything I've watched to date, it does not allow this via its service like an ISP does via router. You have to activate from paused before use.
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Thanks for the update.
Is there a workaround for when there is no mobile reception?
And authentication/authorisation into the network is interesting too, perhaps that happens without mobile reception.
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There does not seem to be a workaround, you either head off with an active account or you run the risk.
I guess its really just a decision prior to leaving if you have it in a paused state. Are you going to use your starlink in a remote area? If you got somewhere that had internet, but poor, and want to use your starlink, you would just access your account with the poor internet to active your account again.
Authentication seems to be based on your kit number and router more specifically. You can change your dish, but your router is the authenticator.
Its really only applicable to the RV system, as no other system has the pause function, you have to turn on RV to get it if using a normal home dish as an RV one. You can enable RV mode (and cost) on a fixed based dish and use it to travel, but you can't use an RV dish and convert it to fixed address.
Fixed address get priority service over RV. You will get internet, but not as good as what fixed reviews may provide you, depending on where you are using it. You also cannot use it in motion, big no no apparently, and terms for them to disconnect your access.
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Oh, found the wattage use too in the FAQ, 75W max for the rectangular dish (home and RV). The business kit can draw up to 300W.
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That could be problematic, we have staff that drives into really remote areas and we are all waiting to see what happens for the deployment in the NT.
If they cannot unpack the gear and connect on the go when they reach the remote site(s) that could be interesting...
For power, there are a few battery options and small portable generators available...win!
Edit: Did a google search and appears you must have the app on a mobile device to auth when remote. See these youtube bloggers that talks too much: https://youtu.be/fi2NNmoAZxw?t=415
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If they cannot unpack the gear and connect on the go when they reach the remote site(s) that could be interesting...
Well, yer they can. You just don't pause the service in your account and you can set it up anywhere there is service, any time, and it will connect automatically, no mobile phone reception needed.
Don't confuse the RV service with the residential one, where people on Youtube have to find a new address to use before they move, etc. RV is just setup and internet, you just have to have active billing.
You only need mobile service or some internet service somehow to take your account out of pause, IF you have taken a paused service with you and decide you want to use the service once remote.
Prior preparation and all fixes the problem.
If staff are driving to remote locations and you know and plan they will be using Starlink, then the service should be active before leaving any telecommunications behind.
If you travel monthly and use your Starlink RV, then there is no reason to ever pause the service, you just pay the monthly bill and you have anywhere access, any time, no account access needed.
Go remote, setup Starlink, have internet in under a minute.
If I was travelling outback with my Starlink RV, I would already have the account active (out of pause) before I left, because it is reasonable that there will be limited telecommunications available to me.
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Nice. :cup:
Vic is seriously saturated with 3G, not sure where you will test.
I recommend testing it at this location, been there and highly recommend due to total lack of reception.
Starlink map shows it is very close to the border of the coverage area.
Google map coordinates: -26.42055629776289, 135.5029096510206
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Vic is seriously saturated with 3G, not sure where you will test.
Not sure what you're asking here. Maybe I'm not explaining the process clearly, so I will try.
You order your starlink.
It ships on x date.
Your account is automatically active.
You now have 5 days before monthly billing begins for RV (your unique billing date)
If you receive your dish in that 5 days, you have free use to setup and play with it before billing date.
You put the starlink app on your phone / ipad / android device.
Beyond that, you do not need cellular coverage.
Plug-in starlink and connect your device to the router (wi-fi)
For fast setup, use your device to scan sky for obstructions.
Your device feeds this to starlink router and away it goes - internet.
At no stage do you need cellular. I turned my cellular off when testing all this, there is no need to find a place without it, just turn it off for testing. Done that myself to confirm.
During first setup you choose to link your starlink app to your online account for easy access. Your starlink router is already pre-linked to your account, so the moment the dish connects, at a guess, it authenticates based on the router assigned to your account and whether your account is active or paused (RV only accounts).
If you don't use your starlink monthly, you can pause your RV account to stop further billing. If you pause your account you still have starlink access until your billing date, at which time it will cut-off until you activate your account again.
Once in a new billing month at pause, you don't pay anything. If you plan on taking starlink away and use it, then before you leave you would activate your account online. If you forgot, or if you only want to activate it when absolutely needed, then you just need cellular data or internet somewhere to quickly activate your account (unpause it) so you can use it immediately (last town you go through or such).
If you want to have starlink RV, but don't plan on using it for months, you can pause your account the moment starlink assign your unit to your account, which will be at date of shipping. You can enter your account then and there and pause it, so you purchased the equipment but will not be billed anything until you want to use it, by activating your service again.
My advice is simply to do your first setup before you go remote, somewhere with cellular / internet to ensure everything is linked and working correctly before you go remote. Once that first setup is done, as above, travel and use with an active billing account.
Billing is based on your unique date based on 5 days after it ships to you for RV. Home starlink is 14 days based on the FAQ's.
You can read about billing and portability here: https://support.starlink.com/topic?category=1
If you planned on using starlink at home as your internet, but wanted to take it away with you, you would buy the home starlink, as you can enable / disable portability as you want, just paying an extra fee for portability, but you cannot pause a home starlink EVER. You cannot change RV service back to home service if that is how you ordered. Well, not at this time. Adding portability to home and ordering RV are two different things. RV you can pause all billing, home (fixed residential) you can not pause.
Did I cover all the points about setup, use and not needing cellular at all?
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Oh, and I purchased a Pelican 1610 case with pick and pluck foam, which houses all the components safely for our travel. For my use, it is water and dust proof, making it perfect for offroad use.
Starlink do have a backpack case for the rectangular set, but it was only a beta release to specific people (sold out) and they told me via ticket they plan to have it available again maybe later this year in the shop. There are cases for it that cost more than the unit.
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If you planned on using starlink at home as your internet, but wanted to take it away with you, you would buy the home starlink, as you can enable / disable portability as you want, just paying an extra fee for portability, but you cannot pause a home starlink EVER. You cannot change RV service back to home service if that is how you ordered. Well, not at this time. Adding portability to home and ordering RV are two different things. RV you can pause all billing, home (fixed residential) you can not pause.
Yeah that was a nice and informative spread and really a good one towards when it is deployed over the Far North.
Thanks for that.
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And it is arriving to the Far North
Last update is 2023 Q1
I can feel the stampede starting already.
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And it is arriving to the Far North
Last update is 2023 Q1
I can feel the stampede starting already.
WOW. That is awesome. We'll start travelling North of the current reception zones 2024, so fits perfectly for us. Just used it for our week away in the Strathbogies, and it was super awesome. The missus ate a little humble pie on why I purchased that for her, after getting there and not having remotely decent internet. It was ADSL (5/0.5Mbps) at best. Rolled out the cable and off she went, one very happy wife.
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So Anthony, for a grey haired Neanderthal with a slab of rock, hammer and chisel, what is the minimum entry requirement for me to come forth from the 18th century?
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So Anthony, for a grey haired Neanderthal with a slab of rock, hammer and chisel, what is the minimum entry requirement for me to come forth from the 18th century?
Not Anthony but I'll answer until he's back online:- The uncanny ability to make the Finance Minister believe you bought the new round shiny toy for her! :cup:
The missus ate a little humble pie on why I purchased that for her
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So Anthony, for a grey haired Neanderthal with a slab of rock, hammer and chisel, what is the minimum entry requirement for me to come forth from the 18th century?
The RV system (which is the same as the home system) costs about $1000 to buy the gear. Add another $350 if you buy the Starlink carry case for it. More if you buy third party cases.
The RV monthly access cost is about $175 for the months you activate it within.
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There is a fair use policy that geeks are just having a whinge on:-
https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1134-82708-70?regionCode=AU
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IMHO, Starlink is too new for what it offers, and it could only run into issues as demand intensified.
I believe Starlink will need to move to a speed-based system. Unlimited use is acceptable and most internet is now unlimited, but speed based allows Starlink to plan their infrastructure and connections better.
A 25/10 plan for most people/couples is more than they will use. 50/25 your average household will never use (parents and kids), which is a good selling point and still abundant for households.
It would not surprise me if Starlink moves to a speed-based system soon.
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IMHO, Starlink is too new for what it offers, and it could only run into issues as demand intensified.
I believe Starlink will need to move to a speed-based system. Unlimited use is acceptable and most internet is now unlimited, but speed based allows Starlink to plan their infrastructure and connections better.
A 25/10 plan for most people/couples is more than they will use. 50/25 your average household will never use (parents and kids), which is a good selling point and still abundant for households.
It would not surprise me if Starlink moves to a speed-based system soon.
Yeah but in real life a 25/10 is really bad, seen staff WFH that couldn't effectively participate in virtual meeting when kiddo decided to game or the routing went all the way to the cloud in Sydney
50/25 isn't too bad for just a couple of users.
But for a small remote site in the far north beginning with at least 5 staff and NFS, CIFS/SMB shares over the wan... buy a whole box of panadols.
Becoming too popular has drawbacks but I think they can get away with a tier model because the alternative would be that optus satellite with huge latency issues.