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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by Bob on Mar 28, 2024, 10:07:59 PM »
I bought the D-Max for no other reason but to use it as a tow vehicle and it has done that job very well over the past 10 years.

If I sell the van I have no reason for keeping the D-Max and we would go back to one one vehicle.
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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by 257Bob on Mar 27, 2024, 10:56:14 PM »
My D-Max has just ticked over 10 years and 100,000km and I have ticked over 71 years.

I feel I only have another year or 2 of caravaning in me, it is just so much work to pack and unpack and we have been just about everywhere we want to go a couple of times.

My thoughts are to sell the rig and trade my wifes car in on a new EV. I don't see us doing many more country trips and only venture out of home to go shopping or visit the kids so charging an EV at home will be about all we need and using our 5kw of solar and charging during the day (setting a time switch for daylight hours means that we are not paying for power to charge the EV.

This will likely be our last car so want to make the correct choice a and EV seems a good option to me.

Maybe sell the caravan and concentrate on day trips.  Don't stop doing what you love.
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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by guyfromaus on Mar 27, 2024, 09:09:35 PM »
The  battery reduces in capacity as it ages   so if you get 400k on a charge when new  it will be lesser as it ages!
On talk back radio in Adelaide today a motor trader said a 2 yo Tesla with  say 50k on the clock would not be popular with dealers- unlikely would trade in.
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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by dilbert on Mar 27, 2024, 08:21:17 PM »
My D-Max has just ticked over 10 years and 100,000km and I have ticked over 71 years.

I feel I only have another year or 2 of caravaning in me, it is just so much work to pack and unpack and we have been just about everywhere we want to go a couple of times.

My thoughts are to sell the rig and trade my wifes car in on a new EV. I don't see us doing many more country trips and only venture out of home to go shopping or visit the kids so charging an EV at home will be about all we need and using our 5kw of solar and charging during the day (setting a time switch for daylight hours means that we are not paying for power to charge the EV.

This will likely be our last car so want to make the correct choice a and EV seems a good option to me.

Hey Bob, in the words of Clint Eastwood, Toby Keith and Willie Nelson..."Don't let the old man in" mate. I'm only a couple of years behind you, and have no plans to let go of the MU-X.
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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by Bob on Mar 27, 2024, 06:20:17 PM »
Obviously EV is not for everybody but i think it fits my future use quiet well.

Valkie, I don't know where you got those figure from but I doubt they they are correct otherwise you could not charge it at home. :dontknow:
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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by 257Bob on Mar 27, 2024, 05:58:49 PM »
My biggest issue with EVs is travelling for extended trips away from urban areas.  I can throw five 20L drums of diesel on the back and top up when I need to. 

Will I now need to take a generator and drums of petrol?  How fast will a generator charge the battery?  Do I need to get up in the middle of the night and refuel the generator?  Will the bloody generator have to run all night keeping me awake? 

I think a small EV would be good living in the city if you lived the city life style, but what about those of us who want to travel to remote places?  Can you imagine reaching some remote town on a near empty battery and seeing 50 grey nomads lined up waiting to charge. 

I can see someone calling an ambulance and it doesn't turn up because it's run flat.  Or watching your house burn down because the fire truck is charging.  Imagine trying to fight bush fires and the vehicles are all charging for an hour or more.  Imagine trying to flee from a bushfire and your vehicle needs charging and there are 50 people trying to charge at four stations.  I don't think those in charge have thought through some of these issues fully. 
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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by Bob on Mar 27, 2024, 05:09:30 PM »
My D-Max has just ticked over 10 years and 100,000km and I have ticked over 71 years.

I feel I only have another year or 2 of caravaning in me, it is just so much work to pack and unpack and we have been just about everywhere we want to go a couple of times.

My thoughts are to sell the rig and trade my wifes car in on a new EV. I don't see us doing many more country trips and only venture out of home to go shopping or visit the kids so charging an EV at home will be about all we need and using our 5kw of solar and charging during the day (setting a time switch for daylight hours means that we are not paying for power to charge the EV.

This will likely be our last car so want to make the correct choice a and EV seems a good option to me.
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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by VALKIE on Mar 27, 2024, 12:41:13 PM »
I was reading an article some time ago about EVs and their applications.

One thing stuck out at me, There are fast chargers, but these things pull a hell of a lot of current.
The article, if i can find it, stated that it was around the same as that of 50 to 80 houses normal drain.

Put 10 in a street and it gets interesting.
In my street, every house has 3 to 4 cars, it starts adding up rather quickly.
We won't need streetlights, the glowing power lines will solve that.

Then, as someone pointed out, the infrastructure isn't close to being enough yet.
Imagine living in a suburb in Sydney (I lived in Marrickville for 30 years).
There was only one house in my street that had a driveway, and that was typical for many streets in the area.
Where does the extension cord run?
So its either hang around the charging station every couple of days, or fight with people to run an extension cord to your car, far from practical.

Then we have the elephant in the room.
We currently have a grubberment hell bent on going carbon free (yeah right)
We all know that with this fanatical exuberance will come power shortages until the "planned" infrastructure and renewables come on line.
By adding additional power drain from thousands of EVs charging up when "the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine" we is gonna be in a bit of trouble.
Most people will want to charge over night, wow, this is gonna be fun.
Huge batteries will be required to charge up the car batteries and run heating and cooling for our homes, oh and one dim witted premier wants only electric cooking as well.

Now, Im only a lowly engineer, but my math tells me something is going to fail.
and its gonna be a huge fail.

Im all for advancement, the more the better.
But common sense says that before you start tearing down infrastructure that is working, before replacing said infrastructure that is barely meeting demands.
And then introduce an additional drain on the less than adequate system, you should really have a plan.

EVs are nowere near where they need to be.
Infrastructure is nowhere near where it needs to be
and punishing everyone who sees this by heaping on taxes, fines and additional charges is simply stupid.
Im keeping my MUX until this is all sorted out....IF.
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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by maweida on Mar 27, 2024, 11:06:43 AM »

Coal fired power stations can  extract better the 95% of the energy potential of the coal.
An ICE engine, petrol or diesel, barely can extract 30% of the energy potential of the fuel they burn.
4x4 EV are available now but pricey, car companys are pretty focused on city cars for obvious reasons.


Power stations are less than 30% efficient, minus transmission losses, so maybe 90% loss by the time the power reaches your house!!
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Off Topic / Re: Electric Cars !
« Last post by maweida on Mar 27, 2024, 11:04:36 AM »
Hi all,
I've updated the original assessment above with your comments. I'm not an EV hater, in fact i think they would be excellent with a few tweeks (but yes, i do love diesel, the smell, the combustion, the spirit, the sound!!).

My friend recently bought a BMW EV ($100k) and was skiting how much fuel they were saving. I just wanted to know (all things considered), if it was indeed a saving. Clearly a big NO as the purchase price is too high, and fuel is not that dear!

Much better to spend the $100k on ETFs and make 10% per year ($10,000) and be happy to spend $1400 on petrol per year.
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