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Title: Super centre generator
Post by: Stevo51 on Nov 04, 2016, 05:03:23 PM
Hi all wondering if anyone here has one of these 2kva generators if they are any good as I'm tossing up weather I should get one for our trip next year. A Honda is about 3 times the price and may only need it a couple of times  over trip. I am gating a 160watt portable panel and have 2 x 100 amp batteries in van but if we need air con super centre may be ok..
Steve.
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: My Names Earl on Nov 04, 2016, 06:40:40 PM
Don’t know anything about the 4WDsupacentre generator.

One thing to remember with these Chinese generators they are quoting Chinese watts, when you convert them to dinky die Australia watts it’s significantly less.  I have the Fuji generator (link below) for about 3 years, it’s rated at 2.5kVa continuous, but in reality, it can only just achieve 2.2kVa continuous.

Mines done just over 300 hours with no issues, got it on an ebay group deal for around $480.  Use it for weeklong camping trips, but mainly use it to charge up deep cycle batteries for fridge and deep cycle battery for electric motor on boat.  Lent it to friends in Rocky last year after the cyclone for a week.  Have been told by small motor mechanic to change oil regularly and to start it regularly (which I did today). Apparently, they have chrome bores and if they aren’t started regularly they can seize???


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-FUJI-MICRO-2-7kVA-Max-2-5kVA-Rated-Generator-Inverter-Portable-Camping-/400560676299?hash=item5d4346ddcb
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: thezoo on Nov 04, 2016, 07:01:31 PM
The power factor of your load will reduce the power (KW) available. Are you saying it only provides 2.2KVa or 2.2KW? There is a difference.

regards
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: My Names Earl on Nov 04, 2016, 07:20:27 PM
Thanks Zoo, my bad.

Mine can only achieve 2.2KW continuous

Just watched the video for the King generator on the Supacentre web site.  And I quote “It will run a power hunger angle grinder”, a 4 inch angle grinder is only 750w and the microwave looked to be 800-900w. 

An easy way to test a small generator is to see if it can run a 2000w variable heat gun. Turn the heat gun to its lowest setting and then slowly turn it up. Need to be aware most of these smaller Chinese 2 to 3kVa generators can’t get a 2400w kettle to boil, mine included.
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Stevo51 on Nov 04, 2016, 08:24:36 PM
We will only need it to get cool with air con in van I realise the start up is draining but will it run the air and maybe charge battery's if needed
Steve
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Isuzumu on Nov 05, 2016, 07:17:24 AM
Even my 2kva Yamaha has trouble running the aircon in the van.
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Cruzeoverland on Nov 19, 2016, 12:23:56 PM
Try Mickyblu.com.au.  Brilliant 4kva that will run air conditioning. $1699 of the top of my head. 


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Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Cruzeoverland on Nov 19, 2016, 12:25:35 PM
Sorry it's this ... http://www.mickeybluaustralia.com.au/


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Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: wintrmute on Nov 22, 2016, 06:05:09 PM
I've messed around with a few small petrol and diesel generators as part of putting on events in the bush.

The really cheap ones are generally pretty awful. They'll work a lot of the time, but they'll fail when you really, really wanted them to work, and they're louder and thirstier on petrol too.

If you can afford it, go the Hondas, and be careful you're getting a genuine one, not a Chinese rip-off with a Honda sticker on it. (Happens, google for discussion on AGR Machinery as an example of the bad guys)

Of the cheaper but kinda decent generators, Kipor are a good brand to get. I've heard some people say the Kulkyne yamaha clone is alright too.
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: wintrmute on Nov 22, 2016, 06:11:58 PM
PS. If you do want a dirt-cheap generator, then you can get them even cheaper than Supacentre -- the aforementioned AGR Machinery (:spit:) are now called Edisons, and while they have an utterly stinking reputation for warranties and returns, they do sell 2kva generators for pennies. And I'm 90% sure those generators are coming out of the same factories in China as the ones SupaCentre sell. (And Supercheap Auto and BCF and so on -- all those own-brand generators are close to the same, poor, quality)

Those MickeyBlu generators mentioned earlier -- pretty sure they're identical to the GenTraxs from Edisons/AGR/Myutopia and a lot of the other budget ones going around. Wouldn't recommend them myself.
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: muddy mux on Nov 22, 2016, 07:55:02 PM
I've got a small 770 kipor generator from bunnings. Had it a few years now and has always been good. Just keep a spare spark plug on hand just in case.
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Wal on Nov 22, 2016, 10:28:43 PM
Buy a well know  brand. Personally wouldn't buy anything but Yamaha or Honda
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Cruzeoverland on Nov 25, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
Honda in series to run an ac is ridiculous expensive. My mickyblu. 4.8 Kva. Quieter than Honda. Great value. Love it.


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Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Stafkel on Nov 25, 2016, 07:58:27 PM
Totally agree Cruzeoverland mickyblu are a great generator, I got the 4.8 kva  no issues
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Q8160 on Mar 28, 2017, 09:32:45 PM
Just moching around the forum for something to do and came across this thread...
I have a Stanley 3000w unit which is reasonable quite and runs everything in the van including the aircon.

But, if you are looking at generators the latest Hondas can be  piggy backed (coupled together) meaning 2 1000w generators can be coupled for 2 kVa..... not bad..
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Thopkt04 on Mar 30, 2017, 01:21:25 AM
PLS don't go for the 4wd super center ones there very noisy use more fuel than you expect, they'll also start to hunt for the right revs in Eco mode when appliances start to draw power.

IF you have the cash Honda's are the way to go but if your looking at spending under $1000 for a 2KVA
try
 http://www.bluedm.com.au/inverter-generator-petrol-2-4kva/

there nice n quiet use a lot less fuel than many of there competitors
Title: Re: Super centre generator
Post by: Sevenof9 on Mar 30, 2017, 05:14:44 PM
Quote
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-FUJI-MICRO-2-7kVA-Max-2-5kVA-Rated-Generator-Inverter-Portable-Camping-/400560676299?hash=item5d4346ddcb

 :BangHead: Some other people who don't understand VA & Watts. Their add must be assuming unity power factor  ;D
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