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TCMTB:
I was seriously considering waiting for the Fortuner to see specs and price point before getting the MUX. Glad I didn't as overpriced the way I see it. Could pick up a run out Prado gxl for under 62k not long ago. Seems to make the Prado the 'premium' car and push prices up. Definitely expecting people to pay a premium for the badge.

jeeves01:
You have to give it to Toyota. There is only one other company that rivals them, if fact smashes them, in the "YOU WILL PAY US MORE" stakes for a product that is no better,sometimes not as good, sometimes a bit better and that's Apple.
Forget the Hilux and Prado the biggest brainwashing exercise in the pay more get less stakes, and Toyota is THE only company that could do it, is the 70 series thing. I'm not sure what they call them now. It's the biggest joke ever pulled on the motoring public. A motoring death trap with 2 airbags and a V8 motor and NOTHING else. My mate has one. He likes it because he reckons power windows can break 'and then what do you do?'. I bag him every chance I get. Cool..it's strong..so what...most people never need strong. Power windows might break but generally never do. The thing is a s..t box on wheels. Rough, noisy, uncomfortable but boy is it strong!!! What do they start at....about $60k
I can remember many years back Toyota threatened to pull the thing off the market if it had to re-engineer it to have 2 airbags.
What about the 200 series...the cheapest starts at about $83k. That's the CHEAPEST. The Sahara is $122k. When I think about it...that leaves the 70 series for dead I guess except it does include a few things for the price...including power windows and it's probably even got air conditioning :laughing7:

dogsbreakfast:
Yep good old toyota tax. I have a VX 200 series for work and dont get me wrong its a great car but nearly 100k!

The 76 series is a 1980s japanese prado with a v8 for nearly 70k and the wheel tracks dont even match. The front diff is 100mm wider than the rear.

Crazy.

Billy:
If Toyota has become the Apple of the car world then I will do what I did years ago, move to Windows! Or, Isuzu in this case. There is no justifiable reason to spend 10k and more on a car that will do exactly the same thing as the more competitively priced car. The MU-X even has better styling, the Fortuner styling definitely takes some getting used to.
Can't wait to get the Isuzu...

Billy:
Checked out the Fortuner on the weekend, didn't bother going for a test drive because of the sticker price. The car is nice but isn't perfect and is definitely overpriced, whether prices will drop in the future is another thing but the Fortuner is still priced better than the Ford Everest. Having said all that, I had another play with the MU-X and its a whole lotta car for not much money in comparison. Fit & finish inside is better on the Toyota but not $15,000 better by any stretch of the imagination, the boot is very cramped with the upward & side folding 3rd row seats, the styling is OK but MU-X is still more contemporary in its styling. The 2800kg towing of the auto is also a slight let down when the Isuzu can do 3000kg. Probably a lot more I could harp on about but I am sure we all have better things to do!
Cheers,
Bill.

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