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Can bus now been hacked for vehicle theft

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yvesjv:
Yep, you're right.
Just looked it up.
It's wide open for a mitm attack or more...
https://www.vice.com/en/article/ae33jk/we-drove-a-car-while-it-was-being-hacked

rockfall:
Interesting topic. I did a bit of looking, and as you would expect, seems like some smart people are working on solutions.

e.g. I found this interview with a guy who is the CTO of  a company focusing on CAN bus security. It's mainly on a technical level, very interesting read (I read the transcript rather than watching it).

https://resources.altium.com/p/security-can-bus-ken-tindell

The company website looks like it has a lot of interesting info - wish I had time to read it: https://canislabs.com/

Sounds like there are some current or upcoming ways that CAN bus security can be greatly improved. But it comes down to vehicle manufacturers, and what resources they want to put into addressing the issues.

mewgaf:
To be honest
[size=78%]Systems can be Locked down (secured).[/size]
But there are costs.
It costs more to produce to parts, because they need extra processing power for security.
It costs more in time to transact authentication. (AAA).
By any means I’m not saying it shouldn’t be secure.
Also Security and systems should be done in separate layers. The media systems and engine systems should be seperate and isolated.


But people think its important to drive there cars by there phones now and security is always a second thought.


Mark

yvesjv:

--- Quote from: mewgaf on Sep 16, 2023, 12:45:55 AM ---Also Security and systems should be done in separate layers. The media systems and engine systems should be seperate and isolated.

--- End quote ---

Totally agree with you there but probably will not happen easily.
The media systems should be its own and have read access only to the the core system(s) of the vehicle. I do like the statistics provided on the screen.
Anyone with a bluetooth scanner, nfc or an rfid scanner (think kali) should be blocked.

Or get an old car to drive, no technology there.
If anyone wants to trade their 1976 Torana SS LX for my Dmax, get in touch with me. I'll even settle for the 1978 SL/R  ;)

mewgaf:
yvesjv
I had a 77’ A9X Torana LX for many years. Great touring car. Wanted to keep it till I was old and grey.

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