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Why never buy a BMW or any other that does the subscription scam

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wj957:
See, I prefer the real world, to the virtual world. I've ridden fast motorcycles most of my life with loud exhausts. And trying to get either the pegs, knees or elbows down in the real world, cannot be replicated in the virtual experience, because there is not the element of danger or death. I've survived, just.  :tard:

Now that I'm old, deaf and decrepit, I've settled for a bog stock d-max with a slow diesel and quiet exhaust.
But I have lived a life outside of a computer.

WAI4WD:

--- Quote from: dilbert on Jul 13, 2022, 10:45:23 AM ---WAI4WD, it's notable that $ does not feature in your response.

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Subscription software usually works out around $100 per annum, bit more maybe. If you buy a service package, they range in cost, but are typically either side of 2k. Servicing is a bit different though. Wheels get balanced, aligned, anything that the vehicle needs to run as new, gets done.

You can see packages online: https://www.bmw.com/en-au/offers-and-services/personal-services/service-inclusive.html

It usually works out cheaper with the service package, especially with brake changes.

yvesjv:

--- Quote from: WAI4WD on Jul 13, 2022, 08:47:46 AM ---Its basically a service cost for them to constantly update software, over the air software updates, Microsoft licensing for Office and other such software available on the system, etc etc. If you can afford a luxury car, you can afford the costs that come with it, from insurance to servicing and parts.

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[Begin rant]
To use this analogy with Microsoft, well I'm a Unix/Linux user and has been for decades.
This subscription issue with Office and other 'cloud' services just doesn't apply to the rest of the world.
They sell features you do not need but you have to buy the whole crappy thing (that has bells and whistles) to run an instance of Word, Excel or Chrome/Firefox...
Plus you have to update your hardware to run the latest fanciest version when you do not really have to
That is where todays marketing and the shrinks they employ have taken us, you are convinced to buy bloatware and feel good about it while your pockets are emptied.

When I buy a device, I research to see if it can be wiped and replaced with an open-source package running a *nix kernel.
They can take their subscriptions based support model to someone else that wants it and likes it, that is ok with me as it is traditionally so buggy that it keeps all IT techs in a job somewhere.
[/close rant]

Note:- A company called RedHat is trying to become the Micro$oft of the *Nix world by forcing their support model onto everyone.
Guess what happened, geeks worldwide united and rewrote their individual operating systems to bypass their crappy software trap.

WAI4WD:

--- Quote from: yvesjv on Jul 14, 2022, 05:25:16 AM ---[Begin rant]
To use this analogy with Microsoft, well I'm a Unix/Linux user and has been for decades.
This subscription issue with Office and other 'cloud' services just doesn't apply to the rest of the world.

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You can buy Office outright. You just don't get ongoing updates beyond the first year, same old, same old.

I do agree with your rant for some cases in software. A lot of companies have shifted to a subscription model instead of outright owning the software, which is just wrong. You should have the option, which Microsoft and others provide. You can buy lifetime in BMW too, for that car, for your account. Sell the car, BMW win and everyone starts again.

I seen an issue the other day with digital movies. A company went broke, so everyone lost everything. The TOS, like all of them state, even though you buy the movie, you don't own it. You have purchased the rights to access the digital version through their platform whilst their platform offers the service. If they shut it down, you lose everything.

Downloading them is much easier combined with Plex. Not that I know anything about that though!

yvesjv:
Someone has already mentioned a way to deal with this:
Bimmercode
https://bimmercode.app

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