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Is Vic going into another lockdown?
mux339:
--- Quote from: Seshman on Sep 02, 2021, 04:47:29 PM ---... Its scary that this got rushed through government within 24 hours ...
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You mis-represent the case. The legislation was rushed through Parliament within 24 hours...with the full bipartisan support of the Labor Opposition. The only whingers are the crossbenchers who weren't given the courtesy of a reading. Why would you bother briefing them in when there is bilateral agreement among Liberal, National and Labor MPs that the legislation is necessary? There are too many egos on the crossbench, and you can't trust them to not have a spray in the direction of the media who have no national security credentials whatsoever....regardless of what they think about their own importance.
Scaremongers. There needs to be balance in this debate. You will only fear this legislation if you are a criminal.
For other readers, a quote from the article Seshman linked:
The Labor MP Andrew Giles told the lower house on Tuesday the opposition supported the bill because “the cyber-capabilities of criminal networks have expanded, and we know that they are using the dark web and anonymising technology to facilitate serious crime, which is creating significant challenges for law enforcement”.
WAI4WD:
I tend to think that funny stuff, done in jest, should be left that way, and not taken outside its context of being funny. I found it funny.
mux339:
Your sense of context is very narrow...in my opinion.
jack-fc:
I treat politicians of all persuasions with the same respect, compassion and consideration that they show for me, my family and friends.
Which is why I found it funny (although Dan would have been a far better subject than Gladys...)
We are all entitled to our own opinion, and I respect that right much more than I respect any politician.
Seshman:
--- Quote from: mux339 on Sep 02, 2021, 05:27:06 PM ---
Scaremongers. There needs to be balance in this debate. You will only fear this legislation if you are a criminal.
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Is that a consolation when the potential is there to frame you to look like a criminal?
Take the Port Arthur gun reforms for example, its done very little to curb gun violence in the country.
"There won't be a vaccine passport" - Does that statement still look to be correct?
Politicians like to play on on the publics feelings of the moment to push through sweeping new powers that push the envelope for what is mostly unnecessary oversight and an invasion of privacy for the average law abiding citizen.
I don't know about you, but I like my law abiding business to be mine and mine alone. Knowing someone is gathering meta data and reading my personal data let alone being able to modify it doesn't sit well with me. Just because its flown under the banner of good intentions doesn't make the people utilizing it pillars of virtue and unquestionable good intentions.
I don't trust politicians as far as I can throw them. The system they operate in is tilted to keep them in power and in control, when did it stop being about bettering the country and instead have the "public servants" control the populace.
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