Is Vic going into another lockdown?

[yvesjv]

Received this youtube joke and this is funny.
Good luck to the people of NSW 

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Removed link to potentially harmful material.

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[mux339]

I actually find it offensive, and deeply disrespectful. But it's typical of the leftist socialist commentary that emanates from the media and the gutless trolls on social media.

We'd all be far better off if these same people that generate this crap stood up, showed some genuine Australian spirit, and did something constructive for their community, rather than sit in their hovels behind a computer spending their waking hours being destructive.

There was a day when Australians respected their leaders regardless of what side of the political fence they sat. If they didn't like them they changed them at the next election. But in the meantime, they at least displayed some courtesy and respect.

Why can't we all be constructive in these difficult times?

[oldpiscator]

I personally find this disgusting. Don't like Gladys but this is uncalled for.

[wj957]

Well, I thought it was funny.

[Seshman]

It has a humorous side to it, but a very real and scary undertone. Australia really is becoming a police state more and more.
Anyone not aware of this should do a bit of reading and just think what it means when misused.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/25/australian-powers-to-spy-on-cybercrime-suspects-given-green-light
Its scary that this got rushed through government within 24 hours to be mandated that warrants are no longer required on some things that are very vaguely worded and easily left open for misinterpretation, that will only be argued in a court after they've been (ab)used.

No offense to some of our older members, but the Government isn't what it use to be. Bob Hawke was the last relatable PM this country had. Politicians since have been pencil pushing, back stabbing elites from influential families that seem to always have some kind of questionable incidents in the not too distant past, Daryl Maguire in this instance.

Simon

[mux339]

... Its scary that this got rushed through government within 24 hours ...

You mis-represent the case. The legislation was rushed through Parliament within 24 hours...with the full bipartisan support of the Labor Opposition. The only whingers are the crossbenchers who weren't given the courtesy of a reading. Why would you bother briefing them in when there is bilateral agreement among Liberal, National and Labor MPs that the legislation is necessary? There are too many egos on the crossbench, and you can't trust them to not have a spray in the direction of the media who have no national security credentials whatsoever....regardless of what they think about their own importance.

Scaremongers. There needs to be balance in this debate. You will only fear this legislation if you are a criminal.

For other readers, a quote from the article Seshman linked:

The Labor MP Andrew Giles told the lower house on Tuesday the opposition supported the bill because “the cyber-capabilities of criminal networks have expanded, and we know that they are using the dark web and anonymising technology to facilitate serious crime, which is creating significant challenges for law enforcement”.

[WAI4WD]

I tend to think that funny stuff, done in jest, should be left that way, and not taken outside its context of being funny. I found it funny.

[mux339]

Your sense of context is very narrow...in my opinion.

[jack-fc]

I treat politicians of all persuasions with the same respect, compassion and consideration that they show for me, my family and friends.
Which is why I found it funny (although Dan would have been a far better subject than Gladys...)
We are all entitled to our own opinion, and I respect that right much more than I respect any politician.

[Seshman]

Scaremongers. There needs to be balance in this debate. You will only fear this legislation if you are a criminal.

Is that a consolation when the potential is there to frame you to look like a criminal?

Take the Port Arthur gun reforms for example, its done very little to curb gun violence in the country.
"There won't be a vaccine passport" - Does that statement still look to be correct?
 
Politicians like to play on on the publics feelings of the moment to push through sweeping new powers that push the envelope for what is mostly unnecessary oversight and an invasion of privacy for the average law abiding citizen.
I don't know about you, but I like my law abiding business to be mine and mine alone. Knowing someone is gathering meta data and reading my personal data let alone being able to modify it doesn't sit well with me. Just because its flown under the banner of good intentions doesn't make the people utilizing it pillars of virtue and unquestionable good intentions.

I don't trust politicians as far as I can throw them. The system they operate in is tilted to keep them in power and in control, when did it stop being about bettering the country and instead have the "public servants" control the populace.

[WAI4WD]

I think political discussion is a recipe for disaster. But thats me.

[wj957]

I'VE SEEN TOO MANY GOOD FORUMS DESTROYED BY PEOPLE GETTING POLITICAL

THIS HERE IS AN ISUZU FORUM

Three things you don't discuss in public son, sex politics and religion.

If you wanna have a spray, go join some tree huggin greeny / uni student protest and K-OFF!

[mux339]

Received this youtube joke and this is funny.
Good luck to the people of NSW 
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Removed link to potentially harmful material.
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Now that I've done my dinner duty, I have a chance to sit down and justify myself...not that I want to, but I feel compelled.

This forum has been set up to be family friendly, a status that you all signed up to on joining. I understand that some of you find the concocted video terribly funny. Others may not, and may have some concerns about its appearance on this forum. My concern about Yves's post is that it can be viewed and clicked on by family members, daughters, granddaughters, nieces, nephews etc with unintended consequences. Just think for a moment what a 13-year old impressionable, inquisitive young lady may feel when she sees Gladys threatening to blow her face off. Are you OK with that?

You'll probably retort that same girl can see same video in her daily trawl of social media on her own tablet or smartphone. Yes, but on this forum we have a collective duty of care to all of our family members to not proliferate potentially harmful material.

Remember, 13-year old girls don't necessarily have the same sense of humour that you blokes do. I ask you to sit down and watch it again with an open mind (forget the artistry for a moment), and focus on what is being said, and then imagine yourself with a 13-year old daughter, niece, grandchild sitting on your knee.

It's a defamatory, derogatory, destructive video, purposefully designed to include threatening language that Gladys never intended...certainly not for consumption by 13-year olds.

If you want a mature, blokey forum where jokes that come close to the bone are tolerated, then I think you have the wrong forum. Just have a think before you post gents.

Thanks for reading this far.

Russ

[Seshman]

Last response in regards to politics, even though it was brought up in a thread talking about political matters, perhaps if you dont like reading about them... don't?
The people who live in Melbourne can understand the frustration for those of us living in Sydney, its not a very nice thing to be experiencing and it grates on the nerves after a while and you just get sick of seeing the over payed mouths move and nothing changes.

@wj957 - I'm a hunter and a tradie who's never been to University, does that mean I can't have an opinion? I'd classify myself as closer to a libertarian, not a lefty fyi.
You know what they say about assuming.

I don't have any social media accounts and I don't watch the news channels. I like to be informed by doing my own research on matters that interest me, which requires more work but it gives you more context and a better insight on the subject matter. Technology is rapidly more integrated and ingrained in our society and becoming the norm as opposed to occasional and we're all accepting of it because of the ease of use it brings. My personal data is something that I'd like to keep personal, how you use yours is upto you but I'd much prefer to be in control of it and limit who see's what.

In regards to the video, I'll admit I didn't think of it in that context Russ, but its a valid point. I can admit ignorance to if there was a minimum age requirement on signup, or a warning for mature content? Either way I did sign up to a forum that was family orientated and i'll try to keep my content in line with that. That said, I like to laugh too, perhaps we need a mature area to post things that don't break the rules but are some what age sensitive?

Maybe i'm just angry because all the upgrades for the Dmax I bought keep getting delayed and the shop is just not keeping me appraised or doing their job properly, this dribs and drabs installing is very frustrating!

Anyway, hope you all are keeping well and these lockdowns end soon.

Rant over,
Simon

[Aaron S]

Maybe i'm just angry because all the upgrades for the Dmax I bought keep getting delayed and the shop is just not keeping me appraised or doing their job properly, this dribs and drabs installing is very frustrating!

This ^^^^^^ is doin my head in, don’t tell me that I will see X product this date, then every week after I chase up the company, I get told, next week.

I understand a week or two, but I am waiting on product that is heading into three months.
Straight up tell a customer what the delivery date is, if it changes, email or ring and give an update.