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jack-fc:
Simon

I wholeheartedly agree with all you've said above. And I've now had both jabs, just because, hopefully, I might be able to be let loose.

Cheers, Jack

WAI4WD:
I agree with everything, other than whats not being said above.

Not everyone has had the opportunity to get vacinnated yet. There is a global shortage. Not anyones fault. Its a global pandemic. It would not have mattered how much Pfizer the Government ordered last year, or AZ, or Moderna, the vacinnes themselves are in short supply, high demand, globally. We would be exactly where we are right now still - more arms than vacine availability.

We started with the most at risk and have worked our way down to kids. Original strain didn't affect youth much, now this Delta one does. Apparently the other new one is even worse than Delta. How long before it finds its way here?

I think the world is frustrated. Its not limited to Australia. Unfortunately, all Australians need to be less selfish for the rest of this year until we can get all those who want a jab, jabbed. Then those who do not, suck it up and they suffer the consequences of their own decisions.

Right now... a lot of people haven't been given a fair right to make that choice.

jack-fc:

True; being a genuine 'Old Fart', I had no trouble getting both AZ jabs (gave up on the official govt phone booking system, ditto with the online booking - absolutely hopeless. We did walkups both times; no problem at all). One of my sons got in real early for both Pfiezer jabs; no probs. But the other son wasn't as quick off the mark and has only just recently got his first Pfiezer. Just about anyone can walk in for an AZ jab down here at any time. Still have to wait 12 weeks for the second AZ though...
I can and do sympathise with those who want a jab but can't get it just yet.
I have zero sympathy for those who blatantly break the rules and travel out of their lockdown area.

Seshman:
Theres only a shortage on the Pfizer because the government decided (unnamed parties, where does big pharma play into this decision?) to only setup production of AZ. There's more than enough AZ in the country to get us over the miracle threshold, but people don't want to be forced into using the least tested, unknown vaccine on the market.
An old adage about all your eggs in one basket comes to mind.

Stupid that they closed down the development at Queensland Uni, imagine what they might of come up with over 18 months of solid government funded development.

Simon

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--- Quote from: Seshman on Aug 17, 2021, 05:12:19 PM ---Theres only a shortage on the Pfizer because the government decided (unnamed parties, where does big pharma play into this decision?) to only setup production of AZ. There's more than enough AZ in the country to get us over the miracle threshold, but people don't want to be forced into using the least tested, unknown vaccine on the market.
An old adage about all your eggs in one basket comes to mind.

Stupid that they closed down the development at Queensland Uni, imagine what they might of come up with over 18 months of solid government funded development.

Simon

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We don't currently have the ability to manufacture Pfizer's vaccine in this country as I understand it.  We can (and now do) manufacture AZ.  That, and the less stringent storage/handling requirements of AZ, were, I believe, the reasons for selecting it originally as first choice.  I'm no fan of Scotty from marketing, but to be fair, based on the information they had at the time, its hard to criticise the choice without the benefit of hindsight I think.

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