All-electric utes on the radar for tradies

[ajm]

As for feeding stuff back in, I discovered that a manure pile burns for days. It's obviously what is keeping Canberra powered up. Maybe that is what everybody has been referring to when they say don't burn that dirty CENSORED anymore.

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[sdouglas]

AJM, the projects I’m referring to are already built. Can produce power but aren’t allowed to feed in their full capacity into the grid due to lack of upgraded government owned infrastructure.
They talk the talk but don’t actually do any of the hard work required

[ajm]

Oh come now sir. Our politicians can't possibly do two things at once.

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[yvesjv]

Reviving this old thread:
We may have a winner on the horizon
https://www.techspot.com/news/99308-toyota-battery-breakthrough-lead-745-mile-evs.html

[Munro]

As the article says, seeing is believing... and hopefully the "seeing" isn't confined to roadside infernos.

These are key though; battery capacities along with safe charging and drain rates really need to benefit from these advances if EV utes and SUVs are to be taken seriously.  I still can't believe the inefficacy of current offerings when it comes to range, especially when laden to their very modest (and often chuckle-inducing) limits.

[MotoBreno]

... could I be any less interested. {edit: In the application of EVs for tradies - I actually do want an ADR'd EV Motard}  May be good for inner CBD couriers only, however, for best part of what, $70K, put a fat apprentice in the front, 500Kg of tools in the back and pull a tonne of pavers in an 8x5...

See how much you can accomplish with that pipe dream. Full EV work vehicles for Tradies... Thats some primo "Blue Sky Thinking" wet dream circle jerking right there...

[dilbert]

That's such an acute, helpful observation there. Thanks so much...

[MotoBreno]

... I'm here all week, Try the veal.
     

[dilbert]

You've lost me completely now.

[MotoBreno]

Boy, am I glad we're in an 'off topic' thread. 
 
They say "if you have to explain it, then it aint funny"  and I cant back pedal out of this quick enough.
 
"... I'm here all week, try the veal" is a self effacing reference to American Jewish comedy clubs (think Billy Crystal in the 6o's, and his first attempts at comedy standup) 
 
Scenario... Young aspiring performer on stage in a bad neighbourhood bar on standup comedy night, disinterested audience, lame jokes, the performance 'bombs' and there's lack of applause as his 'set' finishes. He signs out: "you've been a wonderful audience, tip your waitress, try the Veal, I'm here all week"
 

[Munro]

I just deleted an obscene amount of text, because it was becoming a bit of a rant.

In short, as far as I'm concerned, batteries will be neither good enough nor in ready supply in the forseeable future, and I'll probably be worm food before we can plug half the country in at night without crashing the grid.

[yvesjv]

Well we can only hope the progress into a viable solution.
IMHO diesel is here to stay for quite awhile, think road trains and the likes.

But it wouldn't hurt at all if you could get 500 Ks from an EV while fully loaded.
Darwin to Alice is about 1500 Ks, we usually do it in two hops: Spend some time in Mataranka overnight and next day midday refuel at Tennant Creek.
That should be feasible if they come up with an EV system that will do the distances.

[Munro]

Hey, I'd love to see it.  Who wouldn't love having all the torque available immediately in their off-roading tow donkey?

Infrastructure and batteries are the biggest impediments I can see.  As you say, diesel is here to stay for a long time yet, and anyone avoiding diesel out of fear that electric is going to somehow kill their investment is kidding themselves.

[yvesjv]

In short, as far as I'm concerned, batteries will be neither good enough nor in ready supply in the forseeable future, and I'll probably be worm food before we can plug half the country in at night without crashing the grid.

That's probably because some bureaucrats with no spine will sell their version of the grid "faster, better and cheaper" to get elected and endup costing 10 times as much to the taxpayer in the end   

[Munro]

laughing7:
That's probably because some bureaucrats with no spine will sell their version of the grid "faster, better and cheaper" to get elected and endup costing 10 times as much to the taxpayer in the end   

Where have we seen that before?

What's that, NBN?  Hold your beer?